Two Tea Parties

[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

Now that the Tea Party has taken the plunge to support racism in Arizona, the Party will have the obligatory split over policy. I see a division into two distinct Tea Parties: one of them based on black tea and the other based on green tea. The black Tea Party would continue to support racism (black represents the color of their heart). The green Tea Party will favor a more rational, natural approach to immigration.

What is your opinion of these two parties within the Party? Which other policy divisions can we look forward to?

Comments

[dukexmachismo.livejournal.com]

black represents the color of their heart)

The notion of using "blackhearted" to indicate "racist" causes me cognitive dissonance.

[gunslnger.livejournal.com]

Glad I wasn't the only one.

[futurebird.livejournal.com]

LOL. It crossed my mind. :)

[404.livejournal.com]

Since when is supporting enforcing an existing Federal law racist?

[korean-guy-01.livejournal.com]

Because it's primarily non-model minorities breaking said law.

[futurebird.livejournal.com]

To get technical support the law isn't racist it is the belief, of the majority of the people who support the law, that non-white people are destroying America by breeding too much and munching up public services and committing crimes and something must be "done" about this "problem."

The majority of people who support this law are not disturbed by white Canadians or Brits who my be hear illegally. (though they will play lip service to equal application of the law.)

No, they are mad that people who look different who have a different culture and language are walking on "their" streets and moving in to "their" neighborhoods. They are angry when they go to a corner store and all of the canned goods say "Goya" and no one speaks English.

They are scared that the white America they grew up with is vanishing forever. Since a good chunk of the people in question are not "legal" they can go after that... but make no mistake if they could find a way they would send as all packing.

[reality-hammer.livejournal.com]

She can read minds.

[aintshesweet-x.livejournal.com]

Oh great. ONE Tea Party is bad enough...

The Tea Party is ruining the Republican party. I'm a moderate Democrat, and there's a Tea Partier running for Senate in the Republican primary in my state, so I get a front row seat the the disaster. I don't even know what to think about the political mess in this country.

[sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com]

History may not repeat itself, but it usually rhymes.

It's Bull-Moose II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_(United_States,_1912))

[mrbogey.livejournal.com]

'I'm a moderate Democrat...'

Well then, I guess this doesn't concern you since it's not your party.

[devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com]

Since the Tea Party is not yet a real Party with a clear idealogy, I would expect at least a twelve-way split... maybe more.

[headhouse.livejournal.com]

I kinda hope we keep the tea-flavor theme going through any future divisions. Because then it maybe makes the democrats the coffee party, and third-party candidates have to go for other caffinated drinks, and really I just want to end up registering with the Jolt or mountain dew party.

Which might've had me voting for Cynthia McKinney if it'd happened a few years ago, but that's an acceptable risk.

The nice thing about tea...

[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

... is the wide array of variation. Let's not exclude the herbal variety. I can see some Tea Partiers and some of the Coffee Party getting together over a Roastaroma.

[prader.livejournal.com]

I'm still holding out for the Long Island Ice Tea party division. Where we advocate everybody just getting the fuck along because we're having entirely too much fun not obsessing over the little things we don't like about each other.

They see you trollin', you be hatin'

[reality-hammer.livejournal.com]

When will you stop beating children?

[jerseycajun.livejournal.com]

"(black represents the color of their heart)

protip: If you have to tell people what the symbolism is, it probably means you would've been better off just being straightforward.

But seriously, and I say this as someone who already has spoken at length in previous immigration posts on my opposition to this law, there's plenty more reason to believe it won't go beyond prejudice and bias, without hostile intent to subjugate an entire race. That doesn't make it less objectionable than if it were racist, but let's avoid diluting the word until its actually called for. Especially as I see the law not surviving long enough for it to evolve into anything worse than an exercise in prejudice.

We'll see, however.

[rainynights.livejournal.com]

The black Tea Party would continue to support racism (black represents the color of their heart). The green Tea Party will favor a more rational, natural approach to immigration.


HAHAHAHA that made me laugh right there... Wait so a more rational, natural approach to immigration.. So like the bill that is currently being tossed around congress is what you mean right?

The bill that would give illegal aliens the right to not pay back taxes but get the earned income tax credit. The same bill that would give illegal aliens a jump in front of the ones who are trying to get here legally. The same bill that would allow people who have been deported to come here. The same bill that would have US the taxpayers paying for their lawyers. The very same bill that would basically give illegals the same rights as an American citizen. Is that what you mean by "rational and natural." Oh lets not also forget the same bill that would do away with our borders and lowers the fence from 800 miles to just a measly 200..

Yeah... oh and that is not me just saying that apparently lou dobbs agrees with me I know I was in shock too.

[drcruel.livejournal.com]

Why would you be surprised that globophobic blowhard Lou Dobbs agrees with your hysteria?

Thanks for the pointer.

[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

The gang member provision is interesting. The Brenda Paz story (http://www.amazon.com/This-Mara-Salvatrucha-America-ebook/dp/B002EBDPKA/), as told by Samuel Logan, gives us a fascinating view into gang life in the US. Only a few of the members of the most hard core gang are truly violent. As far as getting the rest to bail out of the the gang, that may be easier said than done. Gangs are basically cults that only part with their members after doing them unspeakable violence.

As for the fence, I don't consider it to be a rational nor a natural structure.

[drcruel.livejournal.com]

I don't think 2 parties is enough. There should also be an Earl Grey subdivision-they can favor racial profiling, but the police have to be real polite when they ask a brown person for their papers.

I can hear...

[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

... the Oxford accent as the officer asks cordially for a peek in the boot.

[light-over-me.livejournal.com]

No, because the law isn't racist in the first place, and doesn't have provisions for racial profiling--and in fact prohibits it. It mirrors already existing federal law. Read it.

But keep on promoting racial and class warfare, and constantly calling everything racist. Keep on demonizing white folks, and the more you do, the more resentment white people will continue to feel as a result...

[eracerhead.livejournal.com]

The tea party is less a political movement and more a religion. As most religion, it will break apart due to the certainty of belief among the various participants.

When I hear of tea parties now, I get out the popcorn to watch a bunch of desperate idealogues self destruct.

[readherring.livejournal.com]

There will be no split. The Tea Party is as nebulous as the so called 'Progressive' liberal movement, where everyone walks in with their own set of similar, yet diverse beliefs. Some TPers won't support the Arizona law, but I expect that most of them do not believe that it is a racist law, and won't feel the need to differentiate themselves from the law's supporters.

[eracerhead.livejournal.com]

So they won't split because they are already split? The difference between progressives and teabaggers is that progressives rally for specific issues. The teabaggers cannot even articulate a specific issue let alone rally for it.

Pardon my absence

[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

My hiatus was due to a busy schedule, not to a disregard for all of the wonderful and insightful comments made to this posting.

One of our students observed that the Arizona law was merely making de facto something that has already been in place. That is, people in American only truly have the right to be arrested. All other rights are merely an illusion.

I personally find it ironic when people try to justify the denial of rights as a non-racist act. For those who are treated as if they were inhuman, the racism is all too palpable. For those in denial, all I have to say is, "Enjoy your swim in that large river over there in Africa."