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I’ve been thinking lately about why so many grand political visions, the ones that promise a perfect society, never actually deliver on their promise in the real world. From imagined egalitarian communities to sweeping revolutionary projects, history is full of schemes that sounded inspiring but stumbled on the realities of human behavior, power and governance. In theory, utopian politics appeals to our desire for fairness, justice and collective well-being. But in practice it often fails because it assumes that structures can be perfected first and people will magically fit into them second. Systems that ignore how power actually works tend to collapse or become something very different from what their creators intended. One article that captures this pattern is here, in case that interests you: https://everythingstudies.com/2022/09/24/why-utopia-fails/

What’s striking is how this dynamic plays out in today’s politics. On the left and right alike you see leaders and movements selling “perfect world” solutions: zero inequality, total security, complete freedom, algorithmic fairness, or entirely new social orders built around fringe ideals. But these ideas too often overlook incentives, incentives that shape behavior, and the inevitable trade-offs in any social system. When utopian visions are pushed without realistic political and institutional frameworks, they don’t just fail... they can polarize, fracture or entrench the very problems they set out to solve.

A clear example is the recent push for fully automated, technocratic governance driven by data and algorithms. The idea is that removing human bias from decision-making will produce fairer outcomes in areas like policing, welfare distribution or hiring. In theory, it sounds like progress. In practice, these systems often reproduce existing inequalities, hide accountability behind technical language, and concentrate power in the hands of those who design and control the algorithms. The utopian promise of neutral, objective governance runs into the same old problem: technology doesn’t eliminate politics, it just relocates it.

If there’s a lesson for current debates, it’s this: idealism isn’t inherently bad, but it needs to be grounded in institutions that acknowledge human complexity and balance competing interests. The fantasy of a perfected system that somehow rises above conflict and compromise doesn’t hold up. Better than chasing perfection might be aiming for systems that are resilient, adaptable and inclusive... improvements over the status quo that can actually be sustained rather than blueprints for paradise.
[identity profile] dreamville-bg.livejournal.com
The Man Who Wants to Crowdfund a New Nation for Refugees
Jason Buzi, a real-estate investor, has an unusual proposal that he hopes will get people thinking about practical solutions to the migrant crisis.

There are several disparate responses to this that I've seen across the webs. Some stick out as relatively reasonable, while others are batshit insane. It's up to you towards which you'd tend to gravitate. So please share your impressions on the matter.

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[identity profile] vehemencet-t.livejournal.com

It is quite interesting how in many cases, protests about various single issues, for example, against the proposed destruction of a popular green space in Istanbul to make way for a shopping mall, often escalate to bring out all kinds of anti-authoritarian actions and community solidarity sentiments. It's as if just opening that valve a little releases the pent up desire for revolution like a pressurized explosion desperately looking for an outlet.

Given the highly stratified nature of modern societies, ever shrinking quantity of truly beautiful and free wild spaces and over all failure of what we call modern civilization to achieve what has perhaps has been the ultimate goal of progressives since the dim beginnings of their heritage in the late 1600s and earlier--the general happiness of the human race--I do not find this surprising.

In fact I am glad when I see regular people actually standing up for what is important to them against the entrenched forces of state power, capitalist greed and the collusion between them.

And it is frankly amazing what such things can achieve through dedication and refusal to give up the struggle, despite what might seem like the hopelessness of resistance, given the historical trend of protest and power relations.

Whether in the ZAD in France or Gezi Park in Turkey, the situation takes a very similar turn.

It was with some admiration that  I saw this headline in my inbox:

"Gezi Park is now a utopic 'Freetown'


A clear reference to the disputed Freetown, Christiana of Europe, something of a communal free space for anti-authoritarians.

Quoting from the article,

"Since the police withdrawal from the city center on June 1 as a result of clashes with protesters, the Taksim district has been occupied as could never have been predicted. Closed with barricades, the central district now solely belongs to the people, and to ideologies that were previously deemed completely closed to the mainstream....

...Inside the Gezi Park, the utopian feeling is multiplied. There are open buffets for people feeding themselves, yoga sessions in the morning and now, a library. Every morning, after the police withdrawal, protesters got the area squeaky clean. People have fun in their own way and nobody intervenes: Kurds dance their halays, Laz people do their horon dance, and a group with Mustafa Kemal Atatürk flags chant their slogans - All this happens within a few meters’ distance.

There are lots of differences, but no conflict. There are no police, but it’s safe. No hierarchy, but a humane order.

For a country where the democratic tradition is about rights being given from the top to bottom, it is about reversing the order.

It is about sharing, kindness, and reasoning. So romantic, for sure; but it is there.

We know that it won’t be forever. Enjoy it while it lasts.
"

It doesn't sound perfect, of course. I suspect there might be a lack of tolerance for some overt breaches of Muslim practice regarding dress, sexual activity or consumption? I do not know for sure but I imagine that would be a source of friction between people of different beliefs concentrated into one space in a country with a high population of strongly doctrinaire religious people.

But it is still encouraging to see regular people creating a free space devoid of authorities to repress them without devolving once again into the horrible primitive war-rape-rampage fest so often touted in neoliberal/conservative state apologist fantasies. I will say it again, if people have the chance to learn, experiment and figure it out with a genuine desire to arrive at such a place, they can grow a free and equal society without corrupt power groups dominating and exploiting them.

But these things are never allowed to last long. As the last sentence predicts.

Police move in to clear Istanbul square

Cue the hails of rubber bullets, water cannons, and chemical weapon sprays.

I thought the words of the Prime Minister were particularly interesting regarding their justification for such blatantly self-interested repression. From the source: "The prime minister has urged the peaceful protesters to leave the square, saying he will meet those with "legitimate demands" on Wednesday.

He warned that  warning that the environmental campaign was being hijacked by "an illegal uprising against the rule of democracy".

Police first re-entered Taksim Square early afternoon on Tuesday to remove signs of "occupation" erected by protesters. They fired tear gas and water cannon while being pelted with petrol bombs, fireworks and stones by a small number of protesters.

In a speech to MPs, Erdogan said protesters still in Gezi Park should understand they were being used in a "dirty game" by anti-government groups.

"It's not a place to be occupied…there is a big game being played using Gezi Park as an excuse," he said.

"They are trying to damage the Turkish economy, shut down the growth of Turkey. I want the Gezi Park protesters to understand that they are being used in a dirty game."

After days of blaming extremists and foreigners for provoking the protests, Erdogan extended his ire to "capitalist groups, interest groups and media groups", adding that Gezi Park protesters were "being used openly by people who want to damage the economy, investment and tourism".

Do you notice how the PM is trying to create division within between those "legitimate protestors" and those "dirty", "violent", "anti-government/anti-economy/anti-tourism groups"? Of course, it is left unsaid that HE and the state are getting to define who are the "legitimate protestors", which entirely and completely defeats the point of a protest. In truth, protestors define their own legitimacy by their grievances.

Meanwhile he touts an amusingly paranoid conspiracy theory that is still in some ways accurate. These people are blatantly opposing the repressive forces of the state and economy.

But yet he is trying a common tactic, getting "sympathetic" protestors who might be more open to "reform" or "talking" with the PM to abandon their more militant comrades so they can be quickly overwhelmed and silenced and removed from the public eye so the project can pick up back to schedule. So the mouthpiece for the government, the group currently pelting and spraying them, tries to bait them into fearing being used in a "dirty game". I hope no one falls for this.

If one reads blogs or missives about various Western protests, they will find these are the very same kinds of tactics adopted by local authorities charged to deal with us over and over again. And sadly, many times, they do create division within between reformers and radicals, those who want to compromise, with those who would rather take it all the way. Accusations of infiltration and agent provocateurs if people are angry about what is happening and adopt a diversity of tactics that the media calls "violent" (smashing windows is "violent" but police brutality is justified?). And the fact that so many groups are spied upon and have a history of infiltration doesn't help matters.

Just wanted to point out yet another example of both peoples capacity for spontaneous free organization as well as the predictable authoritarian response of those in power to keep control and stop what starts as a single issue and grows into a general revolutionary fervor and occupation from spreading.

How many of us want to bet that those "talks" the Prime Minister is going to have with those "legitimate" (obedient) protestors will be effective and open forums resulting in true redress of grievances and accepting the desires of the people in these matters? Who knows what could be if more people got involved and went all the way. Succeeded where May 1968 France failed. Would it be better? Could it be worse? yes, to both. But there would at least be a chance.

[identity profile] luzribeiro.livejournal.com

Some of you may've already heard of Blueseed, a startup corporation that's planning to create a floating city, some 12 nautical miles away from the California coast. It'll be an offshore city equipped as a cruise liner. The location is deliberate: international waters, but close to Silicon Valley, so that the US and foreign workers could conduct their business without the necessity of obtaining work visa. A labor offshore zone of some sorts, that is.


What does this mean )
[identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
Just finished yet another book that gives me that Our Future Is Soooo Fucked feeling, Andrew Blechman's Leisureville, a more in-depth look into America's planned retirement communities than, surprisingly, anyone has yet undertaken. These places are hardly new; Ben Schleifer developed the first ironically named Youngtown in 1954 by simply buying an old dude ranch, gussying up the barracks and transforming them to a community center, parking mobile homes on lots and paving the roads to them. Add water, sewer and power, price the units low enough that people could pay for a lot with their meager Social Security allotment and pensions, and open for business. Youngtown's initial open house caused a traffic jam three hours long when ten times the ten thousand expected to turnout jammed the narrow county road north of Phoenix, then just a sleepy burg itself.

What Schleifer started has been copied again and again; but now certain copies have metastasized into engines of social change, sadly probably not for the better. )
[identity profile] airiefairie.livejournal.com
Downshifting literally means switching to a lower gear in life. It is a curious social movement that promotes a new, or should I call it, old lifestyle, and in a way is a utopian escape from the realities of modern urbanised life. People who "downshift" are often ones who have been very successful, who have made building a career the purpose of their life, and who have very little time for having a personal life. Then suddenly something dramatic happens in their life, a major shift in their thinking, possibly some cataclysm which makes them make a complete 180'. The idea underpinning downshifting is that if people could remove their focus from all the useless stuff that they buy just because they can, and if they reject blatant materialism and mindless consumerism, even from a purely pragmatic standpoint they would be having much less expenses, and would therefore need to work less. Only then would they be truly free to do the things they have always dreamed of doing. So the motto of downshifting is "Being, rather than having".

Downshifting was born as a reaction to the post-modern society which is trying to convince us that those who make the most money, who drive the shiniest cars, who live in the most modern homes, are the truly successful people. With time, our society has put social status and career-making on a pedestal, and turned it into god.

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[identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
I thought I'd combine the month's topic with Friday Lulz.

Here in the States, thanks to Citizens United, money is now speech. Fine and dandy. The problem, to me, is a bit like what happened to my sister. )

Oh, and mods, why haven't we got a Friday Lulz tag? Just curious.
[identity profile] luzribeiro.livejournal.com
We have the Book Club, and then we have Utopia as a Monthly Topic. Curiously, a couple of weeks ago I finished reading Kurt Vonnegut's very first book, Player Piano. Here's how Vonnegut begins his writing career:

"This book is not a book about what is, but a book about what could be."

Interesting - after its first release in 1952 there was a second one in 1954 which the editors had planned to re-name to Utopia-14, but then they had second thoughts and kept the old name. And "Player Piano" is a very appropriate name, because the story is about a dystopia, where the world is totally mechanized and the future belongs to the perfect division of labor in society. A small group of oligarchs rules the whole society, but those oligarchs are not exactly capitalists - instead they're engineers and managers, dispassionate and devoid of any emotions. The machines have reached their ultimate triumph, pushing the now useless workers away from the production process and leaving them on the sidelines. The total mechanization is leading society on a collision course between these two classes - the ruling technocrats and the ruled masses.

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[identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
Most of you have probably heard about this already. Peter Thiel, the founder of PayPal and one of the first investors in Facebook, has invested one and a quarter million dollars in the Seasteading Institute company, which funds a project by one Patri Friedman, a former engineer at Google. The project is to build the perfect libertarian utopia on artificial islands off the coast of California.

The islands are expected to be constructed on floating platforms powered by diesel engines. The weight of each platform should be 12 thousand tons and one of those things should host up to 270 people. The islands will float some 370 km away from San Francisco, which means in international waters. The project includes building a whole archipelago of these islands and eventually hosting millions of people by 2050.

The first floating office will be built sometime during this year, and in 2019 the first towns will appear in the Pacific, ready to be populated.



Some details & a hypothetical question )
[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
Hello, my comrades utopianists (sic?)! Political Utopia Month reminds me of a very real utopian mini-society, which still exists in the Siberian Far East. It was created by a self-proclaimed messiah spiritual teacher, former policeman Sergey Trolop now-become Father Vissarion. I learned about this back in my university years, when a Bulgarian traveler once visited my class (I was studying Tourism Management) and promoted his travel book, which included his account of the 2 years that he had spent in that remote utopian colony in Siberia. So here's the story. I don't know if I have a clear conclusion from it, maybe we'll come up with one after I'm done. And beware: it's long!

So the Bulgarian traveler Petar Stankov, a 31 year old working class guy, had spent 2 years in the Russian taiga, in the village of Petropavlovka which is now inhabited by the mysterious sect of Vissarion. The sect has been labeled a "destructive religious cult" by its detractors both within and outside the mainstream Orthodox church. But still, it remains one of the most popular sects in Russia ever since the 90s, when its founder Sergey Trolop started building an "eco-village" to accommodate his followers. The village has grown into a complex of 40 villages around lake Tiberkul in the Krasnoyarsk district, with a total population of around 5,000 followers. Their stated purpose is to live a life in harmony with nature and to separate themselves from the financial system of modern society (i.e., abandon money). Sounds familiar, right? The Amish, anyone? Well, that community is pretty international - mainly Russians and Ukrainians, but also some Germans, Chinese, Koreans and East Europeans, including about 60 Bulgarians.

Vissarion has traveled a lot around the region promoting his social system, and BG has been by far the most frequently visited foreign country. His last visit here was in 2004, and his followers at a local level are about 100. This tradition of environmental primitivist escapism and New-Age inclination may be traced back to the time of the legendary neo-Theosophic teacher Petar "Beinsa-Douno" Deunov, whose Universal White Brotherhood still performs its spring and autumn equinox rituals on top of the highest mountain of the Balkans, and has lots of followers in the US.

Anyway; I might not have a real point here, but this is interesting (I think) )
[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
I spent the last year from February-December working on an alternate history timeline called Up With the Star. As an unabashed Grant-fanboy I began this timeline expecting that by letting the events lead each other it'd lead to something far more utopian than dystopian. After all, I wrote it and the point of divergence ensures one of my historical heroes' plans go far, far better than they did and his career as a general is an uninterrupted track of clean success. That's what I intended.
cut for FLs due to length )

To me a great lesson on this pure, fictional, theoretic skeleton I intend to turn into published stories to make money off of is that even when one's dealing with pure fiction and trying to ensure that events aren't jerry-rigged ala bad writing and wishful-thinking timelines, attempting to build a utopia out of human humans acting with imperfect knowledge and no prior understandings of events is a damned hard task. I found in this case that it in fact proved impossible to do so, and that the result was that a world emerged where dystopia existed in the form of a powerful, aggressive fascist Russia and China and an atomic WWII where nuclear weaponry wasn't enough to end the war and where dystopia in the form of a new, emboldened Communism would be the future if I continued it past 2011 which I do not intend to do so, at least right now.

The discussion here is twofold, one I'm curious what you guys think of the timeline itself, providing a link here:

http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=184722

And two, both in terms of this timeline and other aspiring authors on this community, what happens when you guys attempt to create utopias? Does it wind up working well or does it end up like this, replacing our own messes with other messes just as chaotic and messy as our own world?
[identity profile] airiefairie.livejournal.com
Here is a slightly more philosophical question. I know this is a primarily political community but please do bear with me if you like. What would happen if we could arbitrarily and without hindrances travel back and forth in time, to whichever "point" in time we wanted, and change past and future events in a way that would prevent the occurrence of all sorts of evils, harms, and unfortunate circumstances? And what if we could calculate precisely which possible scenario and which combination of circumstances is the most favourable, and then make it happen flawlessly without a glitch? Wouldn't that bring universal prosperity to all humankind, happiness, lack of diseases, lack of poverty, jealousy, and even erase all unfortunate incidents? Sounds like the perfect utopia, doesn't it?

...Or does it? )
[identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com




These videos, I think, display quite clearly why we need to stop caring about money and begin/return to caring about human beings.

There isn't much more, I think, that needs to be said. The video is explicit. Very explicit.

Does anybody dare call what was described "justice"?


"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Tony Montana: In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. (Then when you get the power, then you get the women.)
[identity profile] paft.livejournal.com


Patri Friedman in Details Magazine:
"The way most dictatorships work now, they're enforced on people who aren't allowed to leave." Appletopia, or any seasteading colony, would entail a more benevolent variety of dictatorship, similar to your cell-phone contract: You don't like it, you leave.


Former Google executive Patri Friedman is talking here about the libertarian utopian idea of “seasteading” – “new sovereign nations built on oil-rig-type platforms anchored in international waters—free from the regulation, laws, and moral suasion of any landlocked country.” “Regulation, laws, and moral suasion” including things like welfare, building codes, minimum wage... According to the article in Details, some wealthy libertarians feel “stymied” by voter “indifference” (i.e., firm opposition) on these issues, and so want to take start their own “benevolent dictatorships” where they wouldn’t have to worry about stuff like voter consensus.

Anyone who doesn’t like the “benevolent” dictatorship will be free to leave, presumably by making their way back to the mainland on a rubber raft – or maybe they’d just need to be really, really strong swimmers.

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