On the monthly topic: ideas that never worked

[fridi]

I’ve been thinking lately about why so many grand political visions, the ones that promise a perfect society, never actually deliver on their promise in the real world. From imagined egalitarian communities to sweeping revolutionary projects, history is full of schemes that sounded inspiring but stumbled on the realities of human behavior, power and governance. In theory, utopian politics appeals to our desire for fairness, justice and collective well-being. But in practice it often fails because it assumes that structures can be perfected first and people will magically fit into them second. Systems that ignore how power actually works tend to collapse or become something very different from what their creators intended. One article that captures this pattern is here, in case that interests you: https://everythingstudies.com/2022/09/24/why-utopia-fails/

What’s striking is how this dynamic plays out in today’s politics. On the left and right alike you see leaders and movements selling “perfect world” solutions: zero inequality, total security, complete freedom, algorithmic fairness, or entirely new social orders built around fringe ideals. But these ideas too often overlook incentives, incentives that shape behavior, and the inevitable trade-offs in any social system. When utopian visions are pushed without realistic political and institutional frameworks, they don’t just fail... they can polarize, fracture or entrench the very problems they set out to solve.

A clear example is the recent push for fully automated, technocratic governance driven by data and algorithms. The idea is that removing human bias from decision-making will produce fairer outcomes in areas like policing, welfare distribution or hiring. In theory, it sounds like progress. In practice, these systems often reproduce existing inequalities, hide accountability behind technical language, and concentrate power in the hands of those who design and control the algorithms. The utopian promise of neutral, objective governance runs into the same old problem: technology doesn’t eliminate politics, it just relocates it.

If there’s a lesson for current debates, it’s this: idealism isn’t inherently bad, but it needs to be grounded in institutions that acknowledge human complexity and balance competing interests. The fantasy of a perfected system that somehow rises above conflict and compromise doesn’t hold up. Better than chasing perfection might be aiming for systems that are resilient, adaptable and inclusive... improvements over the status quo that can actually be sustained rather than blueprints for paradise.

Comments

[jacober_calc]

I cannot recall who it was who touched on (I am leaning to Niall Ferguson) but institutions always become oppressive immediately following their establishment. No matter how noble or idealistic that aim, the goal of any institution brought into creation immediately becomes survival. The cycle and pattern plays out the same, the initial actions of the institution is noble and in line with the goals of the founders. But as time goes on, those same actions and goals become the status quo and become defensible against new issues, new insights and new ways of proceeding. These new ways inevitably conflict with the existence of the institution and what once was consider progressive and new itself, becomes the oppressor of ideas and new thought in order to maintain the status quo and remain in power, and essentially alive as an institution. No human made institution can overcome this pattern.

[garote]

No human lives forever. Yet society still must still self-organize. Seems a good pursuit for a society to try and make young humans not turn into crappy older ones.

Same with institutions.

[jacober_calc]

Indeed. I think the self-awareness is what becomes important here.