[identity profile] mintogrubb.livejournal.com
'A prices and incomes policy is doomed to fail' - or so we are told. they said the same ting about votes for women , about votes for men even .

So now, Islington has gone for a 10 to 1 ratio in earnings. No - Socialism does not have to mean taking it off the rich to give it to the poor. Any company can run on a 10 to 1 ratio - You want to make more money for yourself, Mr/Ms CEO? Well, just give more money to the people who put you up where you are. that way, everyon can get more wealth and the company will find that better housed, better fed and better educated workers are more productive than those who are not.

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So, okay , this is a Public Sector employer. But what would stop a private company from doing the same thing - apart from corporate greed, of course?
[identity profile] mintogrubb.livejournal.com
in the wake of the Occupation of Wall Street, a group in the Uk has mounted a peacful protest against the London Stock Exchange.
Critics say that the international movement is anti capitalist and very disorganised, having no clear cut agenda for change, but is merely a wail of protest against several Government spending cuts.

However, these criticisms are rapidly becoming discredited as the story unfolds. [Unknown site tag]

In interviews with the BBC , protesters are making it clear that many are older, in jobs and retired, as well as just students who critics can easily dismiss as ' the usual suspects'.

Organising group Occupy LSX later posted an initial statement on its website in which it said the "current system" was unsustainable.

It called for:

a.. Structural change towards "authentic global equality"
b.. An end to the actions of those causing oppression
c.. An end to global tax injustice
d.. Regulators who are "genuinely independent" of the industries they regulated
The statement also expressed support for the strike planned for 30 November and actions to "defend our health services, welfare, education and employment, and to stop wars and arms dealing".

Self-employed window cleaner and protester James Awberry said he expected the demonstrators to be stereotyped but that there were many "normal, hardworking" people among them.

"It's not just a bunch of hippies. We're not a single issue and we're not a one-day march. The reason why protests have never worked and never changed anything before is because they're generally speaking for a single issue for a single day. This is many issues for as long as it takes."

http://occupylondon.org.uk/


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15330959

Foreign Secretary William Hague on Sunday said that protests were not the answer, but the Green Party on Monday pledged its support to the protests in London and around the world.

Green Party leader and MP Caroline Lucas said: "The camp that has been set up a stone's throw from London Stock Exchange is an opportunity to explore a different kind of future to the one the mainstream political parties have constructed."

The city of London will be occupied until the end of the year, the protesters vow. So far , it has beenn peaceful, with many workers in the city expressing sympathy with the protesters. thios is turning away from the 'us and them ' situation into a realisation that the system oppresses and exploits the people who are relatively well off as well.

Watch this space for further details.
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Iin an unprecedented step, a sitting MP has called for an arms trading exhibition to be shut down.

http://www.greenparty.org.uk/news/green-mp-calls-for-dsei-to-be-shut-down.html

This is a politically hot potato for many reasons. Arms is a big money spinner in the UK, an area that adds billions to the UK economy. And Caroline Lucas wants to close it down.

Me, I don't approve of pork barrel politics. The Jobs involved could go to make something other than death machines - but the particular question is sharpened by the presence of cluster bombs on sale.

cluster bombs will detonate and scatter deadly sub munitions over the battlefield. sadly, some do not detonate, and will remain part of the landscape for decades after the conflict ends - a threat to civilians and especially children who may find them later...

For this reason , the UK is a signatory to an international treaty banning cluster munitions.
Yey, here they are, on sale in a UK market.

At least one person I know of has said in effect, that Lucas has no business speaking out on the issue. because she is a Brit and the Brits are guilty, as a whole nation , for what happened in centuries past.

Ok, so Obama is an American - he has no business speaking out about slavery, race, or anything to do with that - because his nation is guilty of crimes committed before he was born. Meh - I don't get the twisted logic of some of my fellow left wingers, I really don't.

For me, Lucas is doing the right thing here. If not her, who else will step up to the plate?
The Labour Party ~should~ of course, but who are the real party of the ordinary working people these days?

And again, I ask, if she is taking the wrong approach, then what is the *right* approach on international arms sales? Don't just say she is doing it wrong , gimme another better alternative.
[identity profile] mintogrubb.livejournal.com
Caroline Lucas has called for Britain to stop selling arms to repressive regimes.
http://www.carolinelucas.com/cl/media/stop-arms-sales-to-repressive-regimes-says-pavilion-mp.html

Ok, I know a lot of fellow Brits are not gonna like me for saying this, but one of the biggest selling exports we have is armaments.

Yeah, I know that the minute you paint a Land Rover green and shove a radio in the dash, it becomes a "military export" , but the fact is that Britain has been selling guns and ammo to some of the nastiest people on the planet. And that includes Galtieri, Pinochet, Saddam Hussain , even
Gaddaffi himself.

People talk about 'principles', well a principle is not a principle unless it costs you something, it 's just an idea. And for too long the UK has led the world in selling arms to dictators.

I think the argument can be made that we have to supply our own armed forces, and that we can therefore legitimately help our own allies- but are we serious about believing in Democracy? if so, we ought to seriously rethink the circumstances under which we will allow people to buy armaments from us.

It may mean a loss in British jobs - but can't we retrain those involved to make other, more useful items? it may be a sad fact that we have such a market for weapons in the world, but we are part of the problem , and not the answer if we don't face up to the moral implications.

Kudos ought to be given to Ms Lucas for putting forward an item that Labour would ~like#, but no longer has the nerve to suggest. this isn't going to do her Party and good in constituencies where armaments are the only form of industry, but I still think she has done the right thing.
[identity profile] mintogrubb.livejournal.com
Ok, I am a good deal older than most people here, I guess, and I have seen a lot of changes in my life. I have seen the Berlin Wall come down, I have seen Nelson Mandela become President of South Africa, I have seen America send a man to the moon, and even send a black man to the White House. All of which, other people told me, would never happen at all - ever, never in my lifetime.

It has happened, though, and I remember that back in the days when all this seemed impossible, that a man named Martin Luther King said “ I have a dream”. That man clearly spelled out a vision he had for America – he saw a day when black children and white children could and would go to school together and live in harmony. And that is what I mean when I talk about ‘having vision’ – it isn’t just seeing things as they are, but seeing how it could be and envisioning better alternatives. Read more... )
[identity profile] green-man-2010.livejournal.com
When I recently posted about the UK Greens, one of our regulars asked "Well, are the UK greens like the US Greens?". He then cited a few things he wasn't happy about.

So, I thought I would go take a look at US Greens and see what is going on.
in the UK, Greens are flagging themselves up as 'the real alternative'.
The fact is that the Labour Party in the UK has become indistinguishable from the Conservatives in the eyes of many.

I mean, who backed the war in Iraq? Who got into trouble because he hobnobbed with rich and influential people in business? Who cut the ties and created some distance between the Trade Unions and his own political party?
Tony Blair, a man who insistes that he represents the interests of the British working people, that's who! You see the problem?

So, Greens in England and Wales are focussiing on the differnces between themselves and the older, more traditional parties. We say that the differences between the reds and blues are superficial - If you want real change - you have to vote Green.

Over the pond, it is different. Our Conservatives are Blue, and your Republicans ( who are ideologically more conservative with a small c) are red, and their politcal opponents, the Democrats are blue instead - but American Greens are also saying that the Blue and Red are much the same - that Democrats are not so different from Republicans once they get off the stump and take ofice.

So, is this a fair assesment? Do the Greens have any appeal to you, I ask the Americans in this community? what do you think of this, and the rest of their website?

http://www.therealdifference.org/

If , like me, America is a farway place where all the people talk with a strange accent, how do Greens operate in your country? What are the issues that your Green Party focusses on, and what do you think of your local Greens?
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From the Daily Express - Caroline Lucas claims that the Green Party *is* Opposition Party in Westminster. Story in full is under the cut to save yr bandwidth. But isn't she right? I mean, how can Labour claim to be the ' loyal opposition' when in fact they are simply the 'Business Friendly, Tory Lite Party'?
And Nick Clegg's Liberals? Well, they are in the Tory led government coalition, fiercely fighting to make sure we don't have any increases in student fees, making sure that the government does not go selling off the nation's forests, opposing the renewal of Trident and... well, ok , so they are not actually doing any of that.

So, like Caroline Lucas said - if you want to vote for a party to oppose the Tories - vote Green

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Caroline Lucas, the Green MP for Brighton pavilion, wants to shake up parliament.
Electronic voting instead of queuing to go through the lobbies, a time limit onspeeches from members, the abolition of late night sittings...just some of her proposals to modernise our ancient parlimentary system in the UK.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12356919

And yet, the is how the Euro - parliment does thing already. It may be radically new in the UK to suggest such measures, but large parts of the world are doing this sorta thing already.

How does the business of parlimentary procedure work in your country, may I ask members here?

I could go on in full Green Candidate mode and tell you that caroline wants to shake up more than just Westminster, she wants to reform the electoral system we have in this country, stop Britain exporting armaments to the world's dictators in places like Libya, and reform the way we conduct international trade to make it fairer to developing countries and stuf like that - but I won't. :)

Let's just talk about Parlimentary Reform this time. Tell us your views on her ideas if you are a Brit like me. Tell us about your system in your country if you are not. tell us about any changes you think ought to be made and why.
[identity profile] green-man-2010.livejournal.com
There are several problems facing Planet Earth right now, and Government really does need to govern.

When Americans look out across the oil slick in the Gulf of mexico and ask ' How come?', the informed answer that is coming back currently seems to be saying that BP ( British Petroleum or Biggish Pollution , dependent on POV) was in a very pally position with the US Guvvermint. Doing their own safety checks and working to a very watered down version of Safety Regulations, anyway, so I read in the Sunday Times.

British activists like myself have long regarded BP not so much as an ethical oil company, just as one of the least UNethical ones that we have had dealings with.

I sincerely apologise to any Americans out there for any damage this company has done to your economy and environment, and hope you get them to pay full costs on any and all damage done.
I also hope you realise that this is what will continually happen when you allow Big Business to ' regulate itself', 'Free it from red tape', or fall for any other sort of Snake Oil that they regularly try to use and british environmental activists have learned to view with extreme scepticism over the years.

The only way to run any company, especialy an oil one working anywhere near the water, is to have independent experts make the rules and have independent bodies checking that they are fully compliant. Otherwise, you get the mess we currently see along the US Coast rght now.

But, when it comes to individuals, a different dynamic is needed. Corporations oftenn have to be beaten into line with legislation. citizens have votes, and can be led, not driven, we feel. Read more... )
[identity profile] green-man-2010.livejournal.com
The idea is that we could turn practically everything that the government does to the private sector and let busines people take over. hell, some people would cross out the word ' practically' - we don't need a government at all, according to them. So lets go take a look at a bit of History and see what come up. Read more... )
[identity profile] green-man-2010.livejournal.com
Ok - I think I have pretty much covered the Green position on one other issue.
We care about the planet, we care about the people, and we care about the community.

These three issues, we believe are interlinked and one will affect the others. Of course, we advocate healthcare - we want to see kids growing up in decent homes instead of dying young of typhoid and malaria. So, I have posted about IMR, about WaterAid and stuff like that, here in the past..

But, you may say - if all these kids grow up, how are we going to find work for them all? They need jobs, and we don't have enough jobs in this country to go round as it is. We don't want to see more starving adults any more than we want to see starving kids on the news, thanks.

Point taken . As a member of the Green Party, I would like to point out that several initiatives have been going on for years, they do work and I want to see them grow. Here is one.
http://www.traidcraft.co.uk/

In a nutshell, we in the west buy coffee cheap , and we sell it dear. The same is true of tea, coffee , sugar and much else , too.
Traidcraft went into the developing world in 1979, and set up workers co operatives. Local people went and grew tea, coffee and lots of other stuff, and Traidcraft bought the goods at a fair price, not a low price. They then sold it on the open market in Britain.

This has meant that they were able to pay the growers more money. The growers used the cash as they wanted, to expand the business, or open a village clinic or school. Traidcraft has opened up  more lines of business - it now offers Fair Trade (FT) clothing , as well as food items. there are also Fair trade organisations like it operating around the world, including the USA.
At first, it was only possible to buy FT coffee at my local charity shop or church hall. But dedicated volunteers campaigned to make FT coffee a mainstream item. You can now buy FT coffee in Starbucks, and hopefully, if the trend continues, FT goods in many other places, like department stores.

This is taking us out of the era when people in developing nations lived in mud huts and were dependent on Foriegn Aid whenever the harvest of subsistence farming failed. Another big initiative is this one -

http://www.tfsr.org/

Again , in a nutshell, instead of shipping out food which will be eaten and needs replacing , this group is shipping out tools that will enable local people in the developing world to be more self reliant. it will enable them to start up businesses.
Black smiths and clothing factories will emerge in little villages. instead of everyone growing their own food, labour will be able to become more specialised, incomes will increase and people will be able to adopt a better way of life - hopefully without going through all the hardships that we did in the 18th and 19th centuries, because they will be able to go straight to using solar power and other renewable  energy sources where we went for coal and oil.

And once we achieve that, we can talk about the Greens position on Trade and Industry, crime, policing, schools, health services, electoral reform and all the other issues we talk about in the Western world. We do not want to see the developing world lag behind forever, we want to see the developing world actually develop.

I think it could be done in my lifetime , and I think this is the way to go. Workers co operatives leading an industrial revolution in the 3rd world; NGOs providing the start up technology and expertise. India and china are already going to become major exporters on the world market in the 21st century. Together, we need to re write the rules on world trade and shift the advantages heavily weighted towards the developed nations.
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from the Green party website;-

<b>When it comes to the banking system The Green Party believe the government has acted completely irresponsibly.

They have forced us, the tax-payer, to bail out the bankers. Yet they have failed to ensure that the same banks give desperately needed credit to families and independent businesses.

We will fight for a fair financial deal, with community banks, credit unions and mutuals.  This will ensure those who need financial help are given realistic loans, so they can survive the current economic hardship that we are facing today.

We also believe it’s unfair that these irresponsible bankers continue to earn extortionate salaries and bonuses, while 330,000 hard working people still earn less than the low minimum wage.

Which is why we will fight to introduce a High Pay Commission to ensure bankers and other highly paid executives in the private and public sectors are not rewarded for their failure. </b>

[identity profile] green-man-2010.livejournal.com
Hello - a general  election has been called in the UK, and I am one of the many candidates on the campaign trail.
I have opened a blog on LJ, and it's the first time I have stood in a general  election.

If anyone wants to check out my blog, I will be talking about issues and events as they happen.
I am not a professional politician, but the way things are in this country right now, I have decided that i will get involved and see if I can make any difference.

In my blog, i will be arguing for a very Green agenda, but I hope to run a fair campaign. No personal attacks, no wild claims or empty promises.
There is too much of that in British politics already. I hope to bring you an inside view, not only of the campaign, but the political process in action.

Go to my blog for more details.
http://green-man-2010.livejournal.com/

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