[identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics


To me the choice is simple, we can prop up a cabal of brutal dictatorships that kill homosexuals, keep women as second class citizens, and don't care if they destroy the environment.

Or we can by our oil from Canada.

To be explicit, if you object to harvesting the Alberta oil sands you are an objectively misogynist, gay bashing, Gaia raping hypocrite.

;P
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Date: 4/11/11 21:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Drill Baby Drill....

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Date: 4/11/11 19:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Bah, bunch-a Canada wankers. Why do we enhance the political power of North America's Space-Filling Empire?

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I'm guessing unethical is *much* cheaper?

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much, much, much, even at a distance.

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Date: 4/11/11 19:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com
What if you're against both? Hypothetically speaking.

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From: [identity profile] mrbogey.livejournal.com
Then the only ethical choice is to stop consuming all oil products.

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Date: 4/11/11 19:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blue-mangos.livejournal.com
While I appreciate the Canada support, Alberta's oil sands have HUGE environmental issues. And also, Alberta already has enough money, I say we figure out how to harvest energy from all the trees we have here in Ontario. :oP

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Date: 4/11/11 19:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soliloquy76.livejournal.com
Isn't there a huge lithium mining operation in Alberta that's caused significant environmental damage?

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Date: 4/11/11 20:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
Yeah, the pipeline is a big deal in the United States, even supporters of the oil sands project have environmental concerns about this. It's in the footnote to my post earlier today on the subject. There are significant protests in Canada over this as well.

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Date: 4/11/11 21:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
It's a reaction no doubt to my earlier post on global warming and the Canadian oil sands being the ticking time bomb for any meaningful stabilization of cllimate change, so you know it's going to be fun and lulzy.

Canadian Wood Pellet Production

Date: 4/11/11 22:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harry-beast.livejournal.com
As of 2010, Canada has 33 pellet plants with 2 million tonnes annual production capacity. British Columbia accounts for about 65% of Canadian capacity and production, while Alberta, Quebec, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, and Newfoundland collectively account for 35%.
http://www.pellet.org/wpac_002.htm
Ontario has some catching up to do!

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Date: 4/11/11 21:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paedraggaidin.livejournal.com
To the tune of "Green Acres"...


Image

U-ran-ium's the fuel to burn,
You'd think by now that we'd have learned!
Far better than that nasty oil,
Or coal, black plumes that rise and roil!

Plu-to-nium's a grand old sight,
So flammable, lights up the night!
Oh, fission, beats natural gas,
'Cause nuclear don't smell like ass!

Wind is great but it ain't everywhere,
Solar panels: costly to repair!
Hydro'lectric needs a big old dam,
Geothermal's viable in few lands!

Hy-dro-gen cells, they are years away,
Give me sweet, hot fission any day!
Fossil fu-els, they are for the weak,
(And we all know oil has hit its peak!)

U-ran-ium's the fuel to burn,
You'd think by now that we'd have learned!
Far better than that nasty oil,
Or coal, black plumes that rise and roil!

Image

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Date: 5/11/11 00:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
And if we built 4th gen reactors we could get around to cleaning up some of the waste the old plants made, although I'm not sure how we'll you'll go getting it off the bottom of the ocean off the California coast.

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Date: 5/11/11 01:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
You can strangle a kitten and eat it raw . . . or you can euthanize it gently before cooking it for the family.

Your choice.

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Date: 5/11/11 02:17 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kardashev.livejournal.com
*sigh*

Oil is on its way out sooner or later. The price of solar keeps going down while the price of oil keeps going up. Once those two prices intersect, say good bye to big oil.

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Date: 5/11/11 03:38 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taiki.livejournal.com
I think the big breakthrough isn't going to be solar. Rather, it's not going to be terrestrial solar. When extraterrestrial solar and microwave transmission becomes viable, it'll not only be safe, clean, but also have a huge availability that you can't get with regular solar.

You still have a problem of machinery and cars that require gas, oil and diesel too. The problem goes further because while electricity can be fungible, mechanical power isn't. Unless cheap conversion kits come out for hydrogen combustion or for electric motors come out, we're going to be stuck with a major problem for a long time.

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Date: 5/11/11 03:40 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Oil only comes from two places? I learn something new every day.

Yes. From Canada.

Date: 5/11/11 05:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squidb0i.livejournal.com
And in the meantime, work like goddamn crazy to get the hell off the stuff while we still can.

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Date: 5/11/11 05:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squidb0i.livejournal.com
Heroin: I can buy it from Jimmy down the street, or Jesus on the corner, but Jimmy insists on transferring the balloons in a french kiss. PRAISE JESUS.

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Date: 5/11/11 14:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harry-beast.livejournal.com
Bashing Canada is the new imperialism.

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Date: 6/11/11 18:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
OR we could go for other alternatives. This sort of false dichotomy is so blatant it seems like a satire.

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