[identity profile] pastorlenny.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics

We have to rid the world of Judaism. Judaism is based on the stupid notion that some particular god exists. We know that this cannot be the case, because we can detect everything that exists with our senses and/or the various devices we build for detecting things. Also, if the god the Jews made up existed, it would never have allowed Hitler to kill so many of them. As a matter of fact, if there was a god, nobody would ever die—because no real god would have ever allowed any life to end. Ever.

Also, we can appropriately hold Judaism responsible for the emergence of those other two horrific belief-systems: Christianity and Islam. Christianity is responsible for more wars than any other belief-system ever in history. And believing in Islam makes you blow yourself up to get imaginary girls in the next life. So we should nip Judaism in the bud before it creates some other disastrous belief-system—like one that makes you want to get as much money as you can in life no matter how it affects others. If that ever happened, the world would be screwed.

Please understand that I am not advocating the execution of Jews themselves. Instead, I am saying that we should become more diligent and aggressive about making sure everyone knows that Judaism is a delusional and destructive belief-system that no decent, rational person would ever accept. If we can teach this in our schools, if we can get our message out through the media, if we will not be ashamed to state these obvious truths in our daily social conversations, we might be able to eliminate the cancer of Judaism from human discourse within a generation or two.

Now I know there are those of you who are going to claim that Judaism is not entirely bad. After all, Hendrix couldn’t have recorded “All Along the Watchtower” if a Jew hadn’t written it first—and we all have a soft spot for at least one Seinfeld episode. But Judaism, as the root-cause of Western monotheism, must be viewed on balance as perhaps the greatest single evil ever foisted on humanity by a tribe of superstitious, bloodthirsty savages.

So who among you is willing to step up to the plate? Or do you want to go on pretending to be rational people—even as you continue to tolerate this singularly pernicious crime against reason itself?


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Date: 15/7/11 00:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Bah, surely we should get rid of Christianity first. Only 13 million Jews whose history consists of a cycle of http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ItGotWorse? No biggie. 2 billion Christians maintaining a non-state hierarchy with a history of massive repression and which inaugurated the second-bloodiest war after WWII? Then let's get rid of the atheists and then the Muslims. Eventually chimps inherit the Earth and then this whole sad cycle starts all over again.

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Date: 15/7/11 00:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-new-machine.livejournal.com
[a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ItGotWorse"]It Got Worse[/a]?

Replace [] with <>. It makes everything more readable.

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Date: 15/7/11 03:34 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bex.livejournal.com
This snail's expression kinda sums up my response here. Bwah.

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Date: 15/7/11 00:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-new-machine.livejournal.com
Eh, religion doesn't make much sense. I dislike the atheist crusaders, but I understand their viewpoint, having been an atheist in Catholic school. It's difficult to be surrounded by a society that constantly reminds you that the vast majority of the population thinks you're going to hell, worth less as a person, deluded, and more than a little bit evil (not to mention associated immediately with Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, et al.). And the root of all these ill feelings? You disagree with them over something they belligerently and proudly state that they cannot and will not even attempt to prove, while making laughably stupid arguments about the tide's magical origins and demanding that you prove non-existence of God before they'll even talk to you.

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Date: 15/7/11 01:20 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
I went to Catholic school too, but I made people back up their claims and by the end of High School had one many converts. I almost got suspended for wearing a pro-choice badge to sex ed (sex ed for 17 year old boys was "DON'T", yeah real fucking helpful).

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Date: 15/7/11 01:17 (UTC)
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I have to admit I don't see the point right off.

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Date: 15/7/11 01:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-new-machine.livejournal.com
The point is that Dawkins should feel bad because he's a bad person. And Hitchens, too, while we're at it.

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Date: 15/7/11 01:18 (UTC)
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NO SOUP FOR YOU! ONE YEAR!

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Date: 15/7/11 07:40 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
Banned from the soup kitchen you are!

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Date: 15/7/11 01:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nano-muse.livejournal.com
I'm with [livejournal.com profile] underlankers on this. Judaism hasn't really caused much war - it's offspring Christianity and Islam have.

(History geek in me feels the strong urge to correct you and say that technically Judaism didn't originate in one tribe but a type of tribe-federation that nearly became one tribe upon uniting under Judaism, before just dissolving into other tribes instead).

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Date: 15/7/11 01:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
You could say that Judaism has been used by an excuse by Israel for its treatment of Palestinians which has been an inflammatory effect in the region.

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Date: 15/7/11 01:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brockulfsen.livejournal.com
If you read the Wholey Wibble, you'll find that YHVH chucked Adam & Steven (or whoever) out before they could eat the fruit of the second tree, gain immortal life and join the pantheon he belonged to.

So that's the kind of god who allows people to die...

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Date: 15/7/11 01:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
22 And the LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”

Actually it was the knowing good and evil that god mentioned "like one of us". God didn't want man to know good and evil like god and co and also live forever too. For... whatever reason.

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Date: 15/7/11 03:16 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrsilence.livejournal.com
We know that this cannot be the case, because we can detect everything that exists with our senses and/or the various devices we build for detecting things.

Strawman.

The fact that there is no reliable proof that anyone has ever detected God means there is no reason to suppose that God exists in the first place.

Is it normal to suppose that things exist for which there is absolutely no trustworth evidence for?

Is it normal to dedicate an entire life philosophy to a thing for which there is no trustworthy evidence for?

If you can't see why it is stupid to not only suppose that an all-powerful, all-knowing, benevolent God exists which has absolutely no discernable effect on the universe whatsoever exists and which no-one has ever reliably seen, but to base an entire way of behaving and manner of living your life on this unfounded premise, well then don't complain when I kill you because invisible untouchable pixies at the bottom of my garden commanded me to.

It's exactly as sensible and rational for me to do so, as any claim you make that Yahweh exists or wants you to do any particular thing.

As a matter of fact, if there was a god, nobody would ever die—because no real god would have ever allowed any life to end. Ever.

Strawman. As you well know, this doesn't disprove the existence of gods, it points out irrationality of supposing the existence of a omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent god who created a world full of evil.

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Date: 15/7/11 03:17 (UTC)
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Like a few have hinted around, this is 'shit on Christianity' month - you're wandering a little - get back in line.

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Date: 15/7/11 03:32 (UTC)
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It a slow day at work PastorLenny?

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Date: 15/7/11 03:49 (UTC)
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As long as they keep Hollywood pumping out liberal-themed movies, I'm okay with them.

Also, I think you've forgotten about their contributions to humanity like the Reuben.

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Date: 15/7/11 05:07 (UTC)
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*makes farting noise, pretends it's fake, but it's actually real*

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Date: 15/7/11 06:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] box-in-the-box.livejournal.com
Wow, SELF-Godwin. Well done. Because, of course, all criticism of religion is equivalent to the Holocaust.

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Date: 15/7/11 07:02 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] box-in-the-box.livejournal.com
I mean, you might as well have asked, "Yes or no, have you stopped beating your wife yet?"

Seriously, even as attempted satire, this is shit. You might be aiming for Jonathan Swift's A Modest Proposal, but all I see is Carlos Mencia going DEE-DEE-DEE.

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Date: 15/7/11 07:08 (UTC)
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Nah, it's enough to just get rid of the stupid Jew-caps! :)))

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Date: 15/7/11 11:41 (UTC)
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Don't give up your day job.

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Date: 15/7/11 14:52 (UTC)
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Lilith, is that you?

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Date: 15/7/11 12:40 (UTC)
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I shaved my balls for this?

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Date: 16/7/11 23:07 (UTC)
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Apparently I've missed some Grade A, prime Christian-bashing drama in this comm the last few days.

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