Maternity leave in America
25/6/11 10:11Let's try this again, as I feel it is an important matter to discuss.
America stands almost alone without legislation for paid maternity leave. American mothers, under the Family and Medical Leave Act are allowed only 12 weeks of unpaid leave before returning to work. To make it worse, those who work for companies with fewer than 50 employees or have worked less than 1,250 hours in the past year are not covered under the Act and are entitled to no time off. While some companies have provided their own paid maternity leave policies these jobs are scarce. A 2008 report found that only 16% of companies with more than 100 workers provide 100% paid maternity leave for the legislated period. Women can not rely on the goodwill of their employers, legislation is sorely needed to ensure the rights of working mothers.
Almost every other country in the world, including Afghanistan, Somalia, Cuba and Iraq have paid maternity leave legislation of some sort. Most nations have laws providing for time off ranging from 14 to 96 weeks in a mixture of paid and unpaid time and varying levels of pay. In the Czech Republic mothers can take up to 4 years off, paid for by the state. Sweden provides 16 months, with the cost shared between the government and the employer at 80% of the the mothers salary. The UK laws provide for 39 weeks paid, by the employer with an additional 13 weeks unpaid. Canada provides 52 weeks, paid for by the government at 55% of your salary with an additional 35 weeks of parental leave to be shared with your partner, covered under our Employment Insurance program.
The benefits of maternity leave are vast for both the mother and child. Mothers without maternity leave or shorter periods are, not surprisingly, more likely to become depressed. Returning to work after childbirth makes breastfeeding, with all it's health benefits, all but impossible. Studies have shown that fewer than 12 weeks maternity leave have behavioral effects on the child in the long term. They have lower cognitive test scores, reach milestones later and exhibit behavioral problems as they age. As they reach school age lower tests scores are noted. There are even results being shown in new studies in the field of epigenetics that may prove that early social interaction influences the marks that effect serotonin levels which may lead to adult depression. Longer maternity leaves have been shown to decrease early childhood mortality rates due to better monitoring of the child's health or accident prevention. These benefits clearly demonstrate the the short and long term beneficial effects of longer maternity leaves for the betterment of society.
Many of you probably believe the government should not be forced to pay maternity leave salaries. However if you look at the programs in place all around the world you can see that this is not mandatory. There are programs ranging from full state paid, payment divided between the state and the employer or full employer paid. Any of these are acceptable. What is not acceptable is to continue to force American mothers to choose between bonding with their child and making money to cover the needs of their families.
America stands almost alone without legislation for paid maternity leave. American mothers, under the Family and Medical Leave Act are allowed only 12 weeks of unpaid leave before returning to work. To make it worse, those who work for companies with fewer than 50 employees or have worked less than 1,250 hours in the past year are not covered under the Act and are entitled to no time off. While some companies have provided their own paid maternity leave policies these jobs are scarce. A 2008 report found that only 16% of companies with more than 100 workers provide 100% paid maternity leave for the legislated period. Women can not rely on the goodwill of their employers, legislation is sorely needed to ensure the rights of working mothers.
Almost every other country in the world, including Afghanistan, Somalia, Cuba and Iraq have paid maternity leave legislation of some sort. Most nations have laws providing for time off ranging from 14 to 96 weeks in a mixture of paid and unpaid time and varying levels of pay. In the Czech Republic mothers can take up to 4 years off, paid for by the state. Sweden provides 16 months, with the cost shared between the government and the employer at 80% of the the mothers salary. The UK laws provide for 39 weeks paid, by the employer with an additional 13 weeks unpaid. Canada provides 52 weeks, paid for by the government at 55% of your salary with an additional 35 weeks of parental leave to be shared with your partner, covered under our Employment Insurance program.
The benefits of maternity leave are vast for both the mother and child. Mothers without maternity leave or shorter periods are, not surprisingly, more likely to become depressed. Returning to work after childbirth makes breastfeeding, with all it's health benefits, all but impossible. Studies have shown that fewer than 12 weeks maternity leave have behavioral effects on the child in the long term. They have lower cognitive test scores, reach milestones later and exhibit behavioral problems as they age. As they reach school age lower tests scores are noted. There are even results being shown in new studies in the field of epigenetics that may prove that early social interaction influences the marks that effect serotonin levels which may lead to adult depression. Longer maternity leaves have been shown to decrease early childhood mortality rates due to better monitoring of the child's health or accident prevention. These benefits clearly demonstrate the the short and long term beneficial effects of longer maternity leaves for the betterment of society.
Many of you probably believe the government should not be forced to pay maternity leave salaries. However if you look at the programs in place all around the world you can see that this is not mandatory. There are programs ranging from full state paid, payment divided between the state and the employer or full employer paid. Any of these are acceptable. What is not acceptable is to continue to force American mothers to choose between bonding with their child and making money to cover the needs of their families.
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Date: 25/6/11 14:56 (UTC)Because childhood development with the parents is important, it doesn't mean that businesses or taxpayers ought to be paying the bill for it.
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Date: 25/6/11 14:28 (UTC)HOWEVER, you are also suggesting that someone who has worked for less than a year at a company be able to be gone for more than 3 months while being paid to do.
You are also comparing different systems where health care costs are handled by the government in varying levels -- which allow the employers "obligation" in your scenario to be somewhat less without leaving people financially devastated.
So again, I agree with you to a point - but not sure I agree with the examples used, nor that the economic benefit of doing this has been fully articulated.
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Date: 25/6/11 14:54 (UTC)I hate to see that ignorance propagated. Returning to work after childbirth does not make breastfeeding "all but impossible." There are a number of things one can do to continue the nursing relationship & while in some jobs it is exceedingly difficult or even impossible, that is not true across the board. Improvements can be made in supporting nursing mothers independent of increasing maternity leave; I personally don't want them inextricably linked because it's too easy to think the only support necessary for a nursing mother is for her to stay home. Some of us want to return to work.
I also get frustrated by the "bonding" comments. Mothers can't bond with their babies if they aren't caring for them 24/7? Really, truly? What about fathers? Fathers need to bond with their children, right? So shouldn't you also be arguing for them to stay home for N time period after their children are born?
While I think you have some good thoughts, so much of what you said feeds into the "mothers are fully responsible for everything about their children. If they don't stay with them constantly, they won't bond. If they don't nurse them exclusively, they'll be sickly and stupid and mentally ill." We don't need more of that.
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Date: 25/6/11 15:07 (UTC)Studies have also shown the long term health benefits from prolonged and consistent breastfeeding. Children have less risk for asthma and chronic infections.
Finally, yes some companies do provide for breastfeeding mothers but that is not across the board. Legislation to provide this would have to be separate from maternity leave legislation but I see it being to the detriment of increasing maternity leave time.
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Date: 25/6/11 16:33 (UTC)People shouldn't have children if they can't afford them. Yes I know the way it works now is it puts more of a burden on women and that's unfortunate but I don't know if this is a good solution. Then again I have no alternative solution, not afraid to admit it.
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Date: 25/6/11 20:02 (UTC)Look I am not opposed to doing this, if you are going to have a social safety net paid maternity leave is one of the more beneficial forms and does not lead to the moral hazard and unintended consequences of many other forms but still this money is going to come from somewhere and it is disingenuous to say "we need this" without at least mentioning a possibility for where the money can come from.
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Date: 25/6/11 21:34 (UTC)Considering that your labor is largely a commodity that can be replaced, why would you expect special treatment to compensate for your choice to become less competitive?
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Date: 25/6/11 22:29 (UTC)Of course, it's unlikely to happen in America's completely selfish, capitalist society. Boo.
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Date: 26/6/11 04:29 (UTC)Which is why food is free in America and laboring for anything is not necessary.
Things have cost. If you can't cope with that realism then I recommend you find an opium den and breath deep.
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Date: 26/6/11 07:46 (UTC)People in business do not play nice, they play the system.
The way round this is to stop asking for 'maternity leave' and start talking ' parental leave'.
Yeah, make it law and make it open to male and female employees.
that way, there is no advantage to hiring a guy over a woman - they are both entitled to say " I want time out to be with my kid".
Of course, this means acknowledging the simple fact that some guys actually are decent people who want to be there for their offspring, but will making this statement bring howls of protest from the hardliners among the Feminist movement?
Will Germaine Greer get up onher soap box and say
" Damned right - a man *ought* to be involved in his child's upbringing and not just hand everything to the mother. Dammit, some men want to be involved, and just like equal pay for women actually benefitted men by letting the ir wives and mothers bring home bigger incomes, letting men have Parental leave will benefit women in the workplace by undermining the 'Mummy track' mentality of empoyers".
Well, is she? If any reasonable and forward thinking Feminist even ran it past her Fellow Feminists, will they turn on her and accuse her of ' pandering to men', or ' not being a ' real feminist' ?
It would be interesting to find out - but you need a lot of nerve to make suggestions like that if you wanna stay in with the in crowd in Feminism , it seems.
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Date: 26/6/11 14:30 (UTC)This. so. hard.
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Date: 26/6/11 14:29 (UTC)I guess I'll stay on the "lurking" end of this discussion for right now since I'm not yet either a mother or pursuing a career.
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Date: 26/6/11 20:33 (UTC)I don't get the logic that claims someone elses abortion a crime and its also a crime for society to help raise our own offspring together.
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Date: 27/6/11 14:20 (UTC)...and maternity leave should be forced on people by law by government, whether the company they run is large enough and profitable enough to support it or not. RIGHT.
SOMEONE should pay for it, right? Everyone should have everything they want at everyone else's expense. I wonder anymore how many people there are still left who think the government shouldn't run everything, right down to tying everyone's shoes in the morning.
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Date: 27/6/11 23:03 (UTC)So, I guess it is no big deal if the govt tells all employers
"Lookit, you all got the hang of driving a truck on the right side of the road, now try and get used to the idea that you can't pay a woman any less than you pay a man for driving it. then , when you have got that straight , how about we all give people time off to look after their kids? I mean , you corporate people want literate and numerate people with reasonable social skills entering the workplace when your current workers retire, right? So, how about doing your bit to make that happen - give parents day care, parental leave and stuff that doesn't cost much but pays long term dividends?"
See, up till now, the govt has reaped the benefits of parents who brought up kids for nothing - but now , women do not look to motherhood as a career option like they used to.
You want to hire people, you gotta raise the incentives.
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