Dick Morris Comes Out and Says It

[paft.livejournal.com]

Dick Morris on Sean Hannity, 2/28/11:

We may at long last have a way to liberate our nation from the domination of those who should be our public servants but instead are frequently our union masters and free our politics from their financial power…What is at stake here really is freeing our schools so that we could keep good teachers and fire bad ones, freeing our state government so we don’t have high local taxes (and exactly how are those good teachers going to be paid?) and obliterating the financial power base of the Democratic Party.

The money quote is underlined above. This attack on collective bargaining is not about helping kids. It’s about establishing what amounts to a one-party system. Eliminate the power of unions and the G.O.P., with its corporate backing, gets to run things pretty much unopposed.

These people do not grasp the most basic principle of an open society – equal access to the political process as a voter and as a candidate.

Crossposted from Thoughtcrimes

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Comments

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

Wow. It's rare to see something this completely off base. It's like the facts are optional. I wonder what the media is telling these people.

[nairiporter.livejournal.com]

As often happens, 'facts' are what you or I or anyone chooses to pay attention to.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

Very true. I just can't figure out what these people are paying attention to, because it doesn't bear much resemblance to what's happening.

[nairiporter.livejournal.com]

Like I said, 'what is happening' is subject to your entirely subjective interpretation - and everyone else's.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

No, because facts are objective.

[nairiporter.livejournal.com]

Their interpretation could be diametrically the opposite, depending who's doing it. This case is a very good example.

[luvdovz.livejournal.com]

Maybe you would correct that wrong and set the facts straight. I mean we can't allow someone to be wrong on the internet, right? Even if the Wrong comes from all sides except yours.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure a true word exists.

* Conservatives don't desire an oligarchy.
* The tax cuts didn't cause the deficit, nor is it what he's trying to do.
* The Koch brothers certainly helped, offering a whopping 0.2% of his total donations.
* He's hot headed toward the unions with the most problems, not the ones that are close to the Republicans, as such unions don't exist.
* Deregulation didn't cause the crisis.

[luvdovz.livejournal.com]

- Conservatives don't desire an oligarchy.
My observations show otherwise. Further, they show that both parties desire an oligarchy. In which case you're all fucked.

- The tax cuts didn't cause the deficit
The article argues that it was the above mentioned oligarchy plus the fat cats on Wall Street who caused the crisis, as opposed to the unions that some are hasting to throw all the blame on.

- Deregulation didn't cause the crisis.
Highly debatable. I mean very highly (http://community.livejournal.com/talk_politics/449338.html#cutid1).

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

My observations show otherwise. Further, they show that both parties desire an oligarchy. In which case you're all fucked.

Which observations?

The article argues that it was the above mentioned oligarchy plus the fat cats on Wall Street who caused the crisis, as opposed to the unions that some are hasting to throw all the blame on.

Who's blaming the unions for the meltdown?

Highly debatable. I mean very highly.

With this logic, I can say it's debatable that Obama's not a citizen (http://community.livejournal.com/talk_politics/624628.html). Anyone can debate something - it doesn't make the premise right.

[luvdovz.livejournal.com]

The observations of a fairly well informed layperson - a foreign person who's able to look at your society from outside, as opposed to staying like the frog in the frying pot and being in denial.

Here's bad news: from most non-US POVs, the US society has turned into one of the most oligarchic ones in recent history - probably only rivaled by Russia in this respect. And both mainstream parties have hugely contributed to that, since they've switched into power for ages. Denying that only speaks volumes about the one denying it, but still does not make it non-fact.

[luvdovz.livejournal.com]

And btw the birthers' issue is not with Obama's citizenship, but with his place of birth.

[mrbogey.livejournal.com]

Nobody uses the term oligarchy properly. It just means corporations or "not me" now.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

Which is amusing as hell, because the 2010 results could arguably be the least oligarchic results in recent times.

[luvdovz.livejournal.com]

You're giving credit to Obama then? ;)
And what's the criteria by which you define "more oligarchic - less oligarchic"?

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

No, they use it properly. But then in Europe liberals are actually right wingers......

[luvdovz.livejournal.com]

Now you're hyperbolizing. They're right-center.

[telemann.livejournal.com]

Really? So how is luvdovz misusing the word "oligarchy" then?

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

They never answer direct questions, even to BS an answer. You should know better.

[geezer-also.livejournal.com]

There are lots of types of oligarchies. When I read the discussion I didn't see either really define. BUT from her examples and "source" we do not have an oligarchy. I would think a case COULD be made that the U.S. is heading into one, but you would have to believe in some conspiracy theory involving corporations (well no not you specifically, since I'm pretty sure you already believe it ;) )

[ddstory.livejournal.com]

Conservatives don't desire an oligarchy.

Dude...

Deregulation didn't cause the crisis.

Duuuude.....

Pfff hahaha! Now I see. You live in a parallel universe a hundred trillion light years away... Or just a nanometer away from us, but in both cases one that the rest of us can't touch. :D

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

How do you figure?

[ddstory.livejournal.com]

Quantum observation.

[luvdovz.livejournal.com]

It all makes sense now. This is how he's able to convey his messages via the Internet. While energy and matter may not be able to pass between dimensions from his universe into ours, no one said the same about information. Hence, the messages. :)

[ddstory.livejournal.com]

Physically passing through wormholes could be a pretty tricky business. Unless you like spaghetti.