Dick Morris Comes Out and Says It

[paft.livejournal.com]

Dick Morris on Sean Hannity, 2/28/11:

We may at long last have a way to liberate our nation from the domination of those who should be our public servants but instead are frequently our union masters and free our politics from their financial power…What is at stake here really is freeing our schools so that we could keep good teachers and fire bad ones, freeing our state government so we don’t have high local taxes (and exactly how are those good teachers going to be paid?) and obliterating the financial power base of the Democratic Party.

The money quote is underlined above. This attack on collective bargaining is not about helping kids. It’s about establishing what amounts to a one-party system. Eliminate the power of unions and the G.O.P., with its corporate backing, gets to run things pretty much unopposed.

These people do not grasp the most basic principle of an open society – equal access to the political process as a voter and as a candidate.

Crossposted from Thoughtcrimes

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Comments

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

Can you please bookmark this so I don't have to link it to you over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/11/us/politics/11mccain.html)?

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

Read what I wrote. Where were the Tea Partiers afraid if we elected the Vietnam War Vet we'd have a foreign President? They are, after all, non-partisan and grass-roots, eh? So where they in this whining?

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

The Tea Party is not about race. What part of that are you not grasping?

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

Sure they aren't. Just like "they" aren't represented by any of the politicians like Congresswoman Bachmann or their candidates like Palin and Angle. By your standards there is no "Tea Party", just a bunch of people who want a government small enough to fit in the uterus and the bedroom and shut down the other party's idea of a budget without any actual ideas of their own.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

Now you're just making things up.

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

Actually I'm just using the rationale you and Bogey use whenever someone makes a post about what the Tea Parties are actually doing. Bachmann, the leader of the Tea Party Caucus is "not a real Tea Partier." The Tea Partiers in Montana wishing to revive Sodomy laws are "not real Tea Partiers." The Tea Partiers who want to declare Shariah unconstitutional and wax grandiloquent about Shariah in towns that no longer exist "are not real Tea Partiers." The Tea Party candidates who claim they were childhood servants of Papa Nurgle "are not real Tea Partiers."

In short, as usual you are the one who never indicates that you are anything but superficial and shallow as far as thinking is concerned.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

I want evidence. Go ahead - show me where anyone's said Bachmann's not a real Tea Party person, that the Tea Party movement is behind those things.

Go ahead, I'll wait.

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

http://community.livejournal.com/talk_politics/858969.html?thread=64654169#t64654169

http://community.livejournal.com/talk_politics/811117.html?thread=60722797#t60722797

http://community.livejournal.com/talk_politics/811117.html?thread=60738669#t60738669

http://community.livejournal.com/talk_politics/750947.html?thread=56287331#t56287331

http://community.livejournal.com/talk_politics/858969.html?thread=64654169#t64654169

You might want to get that memory of yours checked, Jeff, as this shit is why I don't take you seriously.

So when Sharron Angle and Rand Paul win next week, what happens to your theory here?

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

BTW, I want to note that last sentence is a particularly LULZ-worthy one on your part. Angle has been so easily forgotten it's sad.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

On your first link, sorry, no. My response was a challenge to you slamming a whole movement based on one group.

Second link, a great question that you didn't answer, tellingly. At no point does he claim she's not part of the movement. Fail.

Third link, again a challenge to your ridiculously broad brush.

Fourth, my incorrect prediction about Angle means what, exactly?

Fifth link is the same as the first.

So, again, anything? Anything at all? Or is this just some elaborate fantasy?

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

In other words your answer is:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoExceptYes

Because you are actually doing what I'm talking about. I'm pointing out what the Tea Party is actually doing and you're dismissing the Tea Party's own actions as not really done by the Tea Party.

As I recall people were quick after Reid won to say "Angle was not the Tea Party Candidate" but you were both claiming she was and she'd win back then.

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

You lied, par for the course when you actually answer questions. I did answer it thus:

Given their patron saint from Seward's Folly nominated her over the guy who would have ensured a GOP victory there, and given Sean Hannity's whining and giving her ample time on his radio show, given how she along with Sharron "Second Amendment Remedies" Angle, Carl "Horse Porn" Paladino, Joe "Arrest that man" Miller were all of them champions of the great, new populism........

It's nice to see that the Right Wing is just as good at the circular firing squad as the Left is. If one or the other wing were ever to get over that shit the one that did would be very dangerous. Fortunately humans are too stupid for that.
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So, will you or will you not admit that you're caught red-handed in lies twice-fold here?

Dammit, can't edit on LJ and I forgot that:

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

The comment above refers to this, should read thus:

Second link, a great question that you didn't answer, tellingly. At no point does he claim she's not part of the movement. Fail.

Given their patron saint from Seward's Folly nominated her over the guy who would have ensured a GOP victory there, and given Sean Hannity's whining and giving her ample time on his radio show, given how she along with Sharron "Second Amendment Remedies" Angle, Carl "Horse Porn" Paladino, Joe "Arrest that man" Miller were all of them champions of the great, new populism........

It's nice to see that the Right Wing is just as good at the circular firing squad as the Left is. If one or the other wing were ever to get over that shit the one that did would be very dangerous. Fortunately humans are too stupid for that.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

When did I lie?

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

No, my answer is "read what you link before linking it."

As I recall people were quick after Reid won to say "Angle was not the Tea Party Candidate" but you were both claiming she was and she'd win back then.

Who was quick to say it? Name names. Do it.

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

While on the subject of other comments you made that are completely ridiculous horseshit, this is where the "FDR is a fascist who defeated that communist Hitler" references I make to you come from:

http://community.livejournal.com/talk_politics/611041.html?thread=45209057#t45209057

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

Well, that was fact. Whole different ballgame there, but at least you actually read what you linked this time. Credit where it's due.

Erm.....

[geezer-also.livejournal.com]

I don't think that a Tea Party issue. I'm sure there are people who belong to tea party groups that are birthers, heck for all I know there may be truthers (altho that's not as likely :D)

Re: Erm.....

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

Where I'm from a state where every Congressional Representative save Landrieu identifies with the Tea Party and are also Birthers.