[identity profile] paft.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
Robert Jeffress:

Well, you know every year people bemoan the War on Christmas and I thought, “Let’s do something positive about it,” so we created this website, Grinchalert.com, it allows people to go on our website and, uh, if they’ve encountered a business that shuns Christmas they can talk about it and put that business on the naughty list but if they find a business that celebrates Christmas, they can put that business on the nice list. It’s just a fun way to say to businesses and organizations, “You don’t have to bow to political correctness. It’s okay to say, “Merry Christmas…”

John Roberts: What if businesses who are on the naughty list lose customers?... Would it be a good idea to affect people’s business at this season, which can be make or break for some people, and in this economic climate?

Jeffress: John, let me make it clear, we have never even hinted at a boycott…






"Never even hinted at a boycott?" Really? Here’s what Jeffress said on Fox:



Jeffress:
One great example in the Dallas area, there was a bank that took down a Christmas tree because they said it would offend customers. Well, there was another bank that got put on our nice list, the Providence Bank, because they put up a nativity scene. The CEO told me yesterday that there were customers changing from the bank that removed the Christmas tree, and they’re flocking to his bank.

Gretchen Carlson: You are not calling for a boycott of any of these businesses….

Jeffress: Oh, not at all, not in any way! You know, there’s a Mexican restaurant you mentioned that was saying Happy Holidays, but our family still goes there every week…


Watch the latest video at video.foxnews.com

So it’s all about reassuring businesses. Honest! It’s all about making them feel nice and safe. He’s not advocating a boycott.

But he’s delighted to share as an example that little story of a bank losing customers because they took down a Christmas tree.

See, here's what mystifies me about this... Jeffress likes the idea of forcing other people and businesses to utter "Merry Christmas" and post signs saying "Merry Christmas" who are uncomfortable doing it. Do the people at "Grinch Alert" really imagine that businesses and retailers intimidated into towing Grinch Alert's line are acting in the spirit of the season?

And here's one more video, especially for the Reverend Mr. Jeffress:



Thanx to Juliebogen

Crossposted at Thoughtcrimes

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Date: 11/12/10 03:16 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreadfulpenny81.livejournal.com
Planet Feedback does the same thing. They sort their letters by complaint, compliment, suggestion, or question. However, the website says nothing about boycotts, just as Grinch Alert doesn't.

Really, I think you and [livejournal.com profile] paft are trying to make an issue out of something that isn't an issue. If you have a problem with the website, neither one of you has to even look at it.

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Date: 11/12/10 03:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Planet Feedback is not organized into a "Naughty" (boycott) and "Nice" (patronize) list. You can search on a company and see plus and minus votes.

Grinch Alert is binary, good/bad and there doesn't seem to be any way to disagree with a bad review. Total boycott list.

Again, its all legal and good, but don't pretend its not a boycott list.

If you have a problem with the website, neither one of you has to even look at it.

Same goes for you and this OP.

We are allowed to make a post illustrating the coy lie of suggesting its not a boycott list and you can either comment on this or ignore it yourself.

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Date: 11/12/10 03:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreadfulpenny81.livejournal.com
Grinch Alert is binary, good/bad and there doesn't seem to be any way to disagree with a bad review.

Sure there is. If you disagree, then you can put the business on the 'Nice' list. What a concept!

We are allowed to make a post illustrating the coy lie of suggesting its not a boycott list and you can either comment on this or ignore it yourself.

Yes, and I CHOOSE to comment. That's the beauty of free will.

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Date: 11/12/10 04:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
So, lets say its amazon.

The bad list will show a list of bad with Amazon.

And the nice list will show Amazon. So, if I click on the bad list, how am I supposed to know Amazon is also on the nice list?

Data organization isn't your strong suit. Or else you're just trolling.


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Date: 11/12/10 04:02 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreadfulpenny81.livejournal.com
Try Ctrl + F on your computer then type "amazon". Not that difficult.

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Date: 11/12/10 04:09 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
If you click on the naughty list, CTRL-F (windows centric, btw), you will not find Amazon's nice entry with CTRL-F.

The naughty list is designed soley to show people which businesses to avoid.

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Date: 11/12/10 04:28 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreadfulpenny81.livejournal.com
I was able to find Macy's on the Naughty AND Nice lists without any problems by using Ctrl + F.

There's only 1 page of Naughty entries and 7 pages of Nice entries. It's not that hard.

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Date: 11/12/10 04:34 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prader.livejournal.com
You have the patience of a saint.

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