[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
I wonder why, if the Health Care bill could be willingly defied because it's a "Bad law" and people can pick or choose what law they wish to follow the rhetoric suddenly does a 180 when it comes to the immigration bill? Why is Immigration so special an issue that it must be absolutely enforced, where the Health Care Bill, passed as it was by both Houses of Congress by all legal means (and with the added bonus of fitting right square into the 9th Amendment where the Arizona bill violates both the 14th Amendments and the Guarantee Clause) can be willfully disregarded?

Wasn't it not so long ago that people like Congresswoman Bachmann were suggesting that the Health Care law could be ignored? My feeling on this is that the Right Wing cares not one whit if the government extends its power into the lives of individuals but will scream bloody murder the very instant the government attempts to regulate corporations with anything approaching equal severity. For that matter, why does this bill receive support when it puts the onus on individuals, as opposed to things like the CEOs who hire mass illegal workforces so they can make money on the cheap and behave like Gilded Age Fat Cats? Surely if people were serious about the problem ensuring that corporations find no profit in lawbreaking and instead in hiring people who are here legally and citizens, however that is defined would be a help, no? Or would that be the bloody red hordes of Yekatirenberg ravening for the blood of the John Galts of the world?

Another simple, simple step to actually dealing with immigration that would be more than something directly out of the playbooks of totalitarian societies such as the Confederate States of America would be something as basic as simplifying the extremely cumbersome legal immigration process so it doesn't take 4 years and exhaustive work to become a naturalized citizen while simply walking over the border becomes the cheaper and more affordable option.

But alas, that doesn't send a tingle down the leg of El Rushbo and the "let's overthrow the guy who wants to ensure people don't die in emergency rooms because they lack insurance because he's TOTALLY EQUAL TO UNCLE JOE" crowd.

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Date: 29/4/10 21:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-oneiros.livejournal.com
no the Health Care Bill is not in line with ANY portion of the Constitution and clearly a violation of the 10th amendment


"Section 8: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States"

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Date: 29/4/10 22:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rasilio.livejournal.com
Now show how a bill which provides specific benefits and obligations to INDIVIDUALS counts as GENERAL welfare.

You are in effect arguing that that clause gives Congress the power to hire bodyguards for individual citizens.

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Date: 29/4/10 22:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-oneiros.livejournal.com
Congress is hiring bodyguards? Where can I sign up? I need a job so I can help pay for all my medical bills.

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Date: 30/4/10 17:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
Now show how a bill which provides specific benefits and obligations to INDIVIDUALS counts as GENERAL welfare.

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