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talkpoliticsUsing the constitution as toilet paper - again. The Obama administration authorized the killing of Anwar al-Awlaki who holds US citizenship. There is some nefarious precedent being created by allowing the President to order the killing of American citizens, regardless of their alleged crimes, without granting them their 5th Amendment rights. Bush with his renditions, and the implications of the Patriot Act was bad enough, but ordering a US citizen to be assassinated as Obama now did takes it to a whole new level. I bet Stalin would be proud of Barry Soetoro. Anyone want to wager which other parts of the constitution will be considered void by Obama until he gets kicked out of the white house?
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Date: 7/4/10 19:54 (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 7/4/10 20:52 (UTC)Also, what in the constitution gives the government the right to kill non-citizens in any circumstances (eg, being at war)?
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Date: 7/4/10 21:04 (UTC)preamble of bill of rights "provide for the common defense" would be my first guess
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Date: 7/4/10 21:27 (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 7/4/10 23:15 (UTC)(serious question, because I confess to being a bit confused)
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Date: 8/4/10 00:02 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 8/4/10 00:51 (UTC)I think my confusion lies in the fact that it seems to me that if this guy is not local, but we deliver a warrant, if he doesn't give up peacefully what is the recourse? I mean if we were to offer him a fair trial and he refuses, he has declared himself an enemy combatant right? (of course, it appears he has declared himself so any way, so it's a moot point) Enemy combatants can be taken out, problem solved. Or am I being too simplistic?
Think about it like this, even if the dude isn't shooting a gun, he is still a combatant, as generals rarely shoot guns, but in war one side does try to take out generals. Now while this isn't a war between countries, but more ideologies, and the combatants come from many different countries, including the U.S. it just seems to me that he doesn't rate a civil trial.
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Date: 8/4/10 01:10 (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 8/4/10 05:39 (UTC)Every day.
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Date: 9/4/10 01:17 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 7/4/10 23:59 (UTC)