Oh dear:

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/20/russ-tice-nsa-obama_n_3473538.html?view=print&comm_ref=false

So not only has a man who was a source in the story that broke this program eight years ago come forward, he's noted that the Government was spying on a then-state Senator who now has his residential address at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. I do wonder if Obama was the only Democratic state senator the Government was spying on at the time. I also wonder whether or not the people who consider it a good thing to have the government illegally snooping would excuse it in this case, and how many people who approve of it in the name of security will consider the Feds spying on state senators to be justifiable in the name of security.

Personally, this kind of thing is why I think that the real issue all along was illegal spying on people. Nothing says that the government ever spies only on who it admits to spying on. Spies lie all the time. It's part of the business. There's sensible paranoia, and there's the 'Lizardmen are sending radio waves into my brain' variety. Sensible paranoia is to assume that people who snoop for a living never tell you the truth when they admit to who they're spying on. After all, you can bet their fellow intelligence agencies don't believe a word of it. I also think that this is just a sign of business as usual. The government has tended to spy on black people more continuously than it does on white people.

Comments

[dwer.livejournal.com]

when it looks like a duck...

[404.livejournal.com]

when it look like a duck...you play the race card.

[dwer.livejournal.com]

and it works, every time, because, well, when it looks like a duck...

[404.livejournal.com]

I guess all the Democrats (http://www.policymic.com/articles/47059/nsa-prism-10-democrats-who-have-turned-on-obama-over-domestic-spying), progressives (http://www.inquisitr.com/812016/nancy-pelosi-booed-by-a-crowd-of-progressive-liberals-over-nsa-video/)and organizations (http://www.progressive.org/aclu-suit-against-nsa)against the NSA's program are all racists as well?

Seriously, if you are going to be a lapdog for the administration, get better material than the race card.

[dwer.livejournal.com]

you're making less sense than usual. Those of us who have been against these practices since the beginning are still against them. The issue is all those republicans who had NO PROBLEM with any of this shit, and then suddenly, "THANKS, OBAMA!"

Material? You're the one who needs new material.

Thanks for your CONCERN, tho. It's nice to know that you're CONCERNED about it.

[404.livejournal.com]

Again, we all know the Republicans are evil. Obama was supposed to be all Hope and Change, but he's just as bad or worse as the evil BushHitler was in regards to your privacy.

You sure are CONCERNED about covering for your team. Why?

[dwer.livejournal.com]

It's funny that you think I'm on a team that I didn't vote for in either 2008 or 2012. Thanks for your CONCERN.

[404.livejournal.com]

Funny, because for someone who didn't vote for him, you sure do come across as his water carrier.

[dwer.livejournal.com]

That's a problem with your perception, not my participation.

[404.livejournal.com]

Naturally, your constant cheerleading of Obama and insinuations of those who oppose his policies are latently racist is all in my mind. Sure.

[notmrgarrison.livejournal.com]

What other reason would republicans have for opposing Obama?
I can't think of a single reason. It must be because he's black!!!

[dwer.livejournal.com]

clearly, your delusions are far greater than even I suspected.

[cheezyfish.livejournal.com]

YEEEAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!! (http://talk-politics.livejournal.com/1598283.html?thread=128371275#t128371275)

[404.livejournal.com]

That's a YEAH that's only done ironically, because, you know, he didn't pull for Obama.

[cheezyfish.livejournal.com]

I believe him when he says he didn't vote for Obama, but when you hate one "team" so vehemently in what is essentially a two horse race, you are just about always pulling for the other team. My money says he doesn't live in a battle ground state and there was little to no chance a vote for Obama would help Romney lose.
And besides, when you scream like a little girl when Obama wins... ya, your bias is showing.

[dwer.livejournal.com]

in comparison to Mitt? You betcha.

I totally pulled for Obama to beat that terrible man. That doesn't make him good enough, or worthy of my vote.

[cheezyfish.livejournal.com]

Hey, when it looks like a duck...

[whoasksfinds.livejournal.com]

does that mean all the democrats who were so opposed to this kind of thing under bush but don't care now that obama is in charge (including obama himself) are racists too?

[gunslnger.livejournal.com]

All the republicans who had no problem with this shit still have no problem with it. But there's plenty of democrats who complained about Bush doing things like this who are now perfectly fine with Obama doing much worse than Bush did.

[dwer.livejournal.com]

I personally don't know any, but perhaps those democrats who are ok with Obama doing it are ok because they realize that Obama is a far more reasonable person than Bush.

That being said, many republicans who were find with it under Bush have huge problems because it's Obama, and there's not a lot of question why.

[cheezyfish.livejournal.com]

Maybe they think Bush was "far more reasonable" than Obama?

[dwer.livejournal.com]

suuure it was.

[cheezyfish.livejournal.com]

I'm not one to point out grammar, but in this case, what you are saying doesn't make sense.

[whoasksfinds.livejournal.com]

in other words, if you don't trust obama, you must be a racist. the impeccable logic of the dwer bot.

[gunslnger.livejournal.com]

Since you're assuming the answer, you obviously don't even need to ask the question, amirite?