Give me that old time religion:

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/JewishNews/Article.aspx?ID=228736&R=R1

I was wondering if this was going to happen. There is a small fringe group of ultra-Orthodox Israeli Jews that want to revive that esteemed Jewish cultural tradition of polygamy. That used to be pretty regular where Sephardi culture is concerned. And as expected the Ashkenazim like that tradition no more now than ever. They still think of it as a perversion of Judaism (I'm sure Abraham, Israel, David, and Solomon would be interested to know that it was in fact such a perversion). I think this if anything confirms that Christianity is not the only religion to produce cuckoolander reactionaries. Usually, though, these types *are* Christians.

SO what do you in the community think? Is this really no true Scotsmen-not Jewish? Or are these people the Israeli version of FLDS in the USA? I personally see them as Israel's FLDS and expect this to happen in Israel when Shabbatanism is confirmed as the official sect of Judaism there.

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It already happened.

[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

Buddhism is where monotheism started. It is the parent religion to the other three which are adaptations of old polytheisms to the One True Buddha.

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[a-new-machine.livejournal.com]

That is an extraordinary claim, that requires a fair bit more than just a bare assertion to justify.

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[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

Justification is not needed, merely wanted.

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[a-new-machine.livejournal.com]

Well, it's needed if you want anyone to take your claim seriously...

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[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

Only those who fail to see the humor in the assertion will take it seriously.

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[htpcl.livejournal.com]

Well played.

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[midsummerskies.livejournal.com]

Except Buddha is not a God, is not seen to be one or worshipped as one by Buddhists

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[a-new-machine.livejournal.com]

Eh, that depends on the branch of Buddhism. Vajrayana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vajrayana#Sambalpur) appears to have gods, for instance.

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[midsummerskies.livejournal.com]

yeah they do and many Buddhists worship local gods but I don't think they see Buddha as a god

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[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

In some variants of Christian worship, Jesus is not a deity. In some variants of Muslim worship, Mohammad is not a deity. In some variants of Jewish worship, Moses is not a deity.

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[midsummerskies.livejournal.com]

Christianity without Jesus being a deity is not Christianity

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[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

That is what the orthodox assert.

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[midsummerskies.livejournal.com]

wait, what do the orthodox assert? that Jesus is not a deity? Do you have any sources to back them up?

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[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

They assert that those who disagree with the full divinity of Jesus are not Christians, but wolves in sheep's clothing.

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[midsummerskies.livejournal.com]

Also Mohammed and Moses never were deities, they were prophets

you have some very strange and incorrect ideas about religion

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[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

Some value them as if they were gods.

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[underlankers.livejournal.com]

Er, no. Buddhism, depending on the sect is agnostic or polytheist.

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[the-rukh.livejournal.com]

You can definitely make the agnostic argument but I think poly/monotheist is really more a matter of definition.

For instance, for Christianity you could say is polytheistic because angels are super powerful. They can appear at will, destroy cities, and other various superhuman things. They are definitely more powerful than for instance, a lot of the greek mythological figures labeled gods.

However Christianity is defined as monotheist.

Buddhism is the same way, lots of powerful mythological beings, but ultimately they, us, samsara and everything else are aspects of the same thing. These beings are far from omnipotent. I guess that's more precisely pantheism, but lots of christians believe in panthism too.

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[underlankers.livejournal.com]

Not really, Christianity is definitely monotheistic as a religion. Buddhism is an offshoot of Hinduism and even the Theradavada subset recognizes some Hindu gods and demons.

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[telemann.livejournal.com]

Not really, Christianity is definitely monotheistic as a religion.

Not to Jewish brothers and sisters.

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[underlankers.livejournal.com]

Or to Muslims, yes. But then to Christians the Jewish Messiah has already come and Muhammad was at best sorely misguided and at worst demonically possessed. The Abrahamic religions are separate religions for good reasons.

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[the-rukh.livejournal.com]

Any pantheistic religion is also monotheistic.

Buddhim borrows lots of mythology from hinduism, but technically hinduism can also be considered monotheistic, depending on how you define things. There are lots of monotheistic hindus.

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[a-new-machine.livejournal.com]

I always found it amusing that the Trinity was a monotheistic God to Catholics, but Brahma was polytheistic.

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[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

So the Buddhist does not aspire to be One with everything?

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[enders-shadow.livejournal.com]

any sufficiently learned buddhist will know that they already are one with everything, so they do not need to aspire to it

they aspire to attain enlightenment and see samsara as it is, nirvana