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Exactly!

Both UK and US are suffering simply because their media is occupied with those blind mid-class idiots.


Friend of mine says there is another side of medal: FOXnews in the US, which is pro-right media, and having highest ratings among News channels...

Also, I think the common problem nowadays in all developed countries, that they're trying hard to keep their own identity (hello, Brits), at same time being over-flooded with immigrants of many nations.
Simply don't go too much Left promoting PCness and giving your pensions to illegal immigrants, and don't go too much Right closing borders(hi, Brits) and focusing on internal affairs and nationalism (becoming, in fact, blind to outer world)

the Truth is somewhere in the middle...



What do you think?

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Date: 10/7/11 11:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dv8nation.livejournal.com
I think all that made very little sense.

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Date: 10/7/11 15:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
*phew* I thought I had caught the dumbs (I've been awake for far too long).

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Date: 10/7/11 16:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rick-day.livejournal.com
Summary: BBC media exists in an echo chamber of..echos. Diversity (of the right)has been culled and marginalized and PC is ruining shit for everyone.

Solution: I say let's cut out the newscorps and do it ourselves:

 

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Date: 10/7/11 11:57 (UTC)
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I think this is gonna be an interesting discussion... :p

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Date: 10/7/11 13:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chessdev.livejournal.com
This is classic bait-post. I think this is NOT going to be interesting
but will be quite the "classic" discussion where words are typed and
nothing is said.

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Date: 11/7/11 14:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com
Angry old man has very British accent. He is automatically cogent and intelligent and very very correct on absolutely everything.

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Date: 10/7/11 11:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eracerhead.livejournal.com
I think Old Europe is suffering an identity crisis.

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Date: 10/7/11 12:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
I think the idea of entire continents having identity crises is rather ironic. Does Antarctica or South America have identity crises? What about Middle Eastern states with more foreign workers than actual inhabitants?

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Date: 10/7/11 11:58 (UTC)
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I think you need to go back to English classes.

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Date: 11/7/11 07:16 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
On second thoughts, and after a complaint, I think I agree that your remark is unwarranted and we'd really do better without such comments. I hope you understand that not everyone's English is as perfect as some others'.

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Date: 10/7/11 12:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pastorlenny.livejournal.com
Damn immigrants. Good thing there are still some folks around who are willing to stand up to the multi-cultural pricks who believe that brown people are actually A-OK.

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Date: 10/7/11 12:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com
FoxNews has the highest rating of CABLE networks in the U.S.

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Date: 10/7/11 17:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
And I was shocked to see that Jon Stewart's recent ratings have been clobbering Fox's shows ratings wise. Maybe that's one reason Fox has been on the attack relentlessly since that Chris Wallace interview.

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Date: 10/7/11 19:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
And if Rupert Murdoch actually loses his FCC licenses in the US (unlikely, I know, but we can hope) it'll have no ratings at all.

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Date: 10/7/11 12:27 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
FOX may have the highest number of viewers but before market fragmentation all these channels would have been canned for lack of viewers, while the totality of all viewers of political channels is in the decisive minority of people in the USA as a whole. And as far as Western nations bitching about immigrants, if the English and Scots dislike immigrants they're welcome to go back to Saxony and Ireland and Greater Cumbria shall live again. While the USA would resort to being ruled by 300 Indian tribes and everything from the Atlantic to North Africa to Volga-Archangelsk by the Germans and Scandinavians.

Don't like that idea? Then STFU as everybody except the goddamn Bushmen is an immigrant somewhere down the line.

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Date: 10/7/11 12:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dv8nation.livejournal.com
But if the English and Scots left that would just leave the "Britons" and they'd go around getting Welsh all over everything. It would be horribly untidy.

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Date: 10/7/11 13:07 (UTC)
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Your confrontational tone has been duly noted. Enjoy the responses.

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Date: 10/7/11 15:53 (UTC)
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How do you say Aw-Hell-Yeah in Russian?

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Date: 10/7/11 13:08 (UTC)
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I would guess you were about to propose some solution to the perceived problem, but something prevented you from saying it?

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Date: 10/7/11 13:28 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
Keep hoping.

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Date: 10/7/11 14:36 (UTC)
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Mmmmm, a delightful froth of hate & isolationism topped with liberal-baiting sprinkles, so before a fate of either deletion or macros descends upon you, I'll leave you with this:
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Date: 10/7/11 15:21 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chessdev.livejournal.com
Sadly, it'spPretty appropriate to the spirit of the OP.

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Date: 10/7/11 14:46 (UTC)
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Hmm. I think I need that White People snuggie macro to properly respond to this. Alas.

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Date: 10/7/11 14:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
It's a bird, it's a plane, it's... WHITE PEOPLE!
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Date: 10/7/11 15:29 (UTC)
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The thing of note that the video brings up and should be discussed is how anything that is regressive or dangerous in immigrant culture can not be discussed because any criticism of it is considered racist, bigoted, or just plain assholish.

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Date: 10/7/11 16:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chessdev.livejournal.com
or just MAYBE it's **how** anything is brought up.

What we NEVER hear is: "I'm concerned with the flood of unregistered immigrants that our resources are going to be stretched thin"

THAT would be a reasonable statement. But NO!

Instead we get:
"Those damn liberals dont care that all those brown people are coming over here and taking our stuff!"


One approach focuses on the problem, the other focuses on the race.
Guess which approach we usually see?

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what do I think: a proper response

Date: 10/7/11 15:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paedraggaidin.livejournal.com
Mainstream television and cable news media, regardless of ideological slant, caters to a lowest common denominator audience. Most people who slavishly follow Glenn Beck or Keith Olbermann don't really have the faintest idea how government, politics, or economics work, possess nary an opinion of their own that they haven't heard from somewhere else, and couldn't point out Iraq or Afghanistan on a map. Members of the target audience merely parrot the angry talking points they hear spouted off, and think that in so doing they are smarter than their opponents.

In other words, the typical viewer of mainstream TV and cable news is:

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Left and right are a puppet show.

Date: 10/7/11 16:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squidb0i.livejournal.com
A bipolar political spectrum is completely inadequate to describe real world political variations.
But then, pushing left vs right is intentional - it short circuits any meaningful discussion.

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Date: 10/7/11 19:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
tl;dl. Far right is "actionable"? LOL.

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Date: 10/7/11 20:27 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
"As well as being an open platform for Hamas propaganda, The Guardian is a natural home of the terminally tolerant."

As opposed to the terminally bigoted?

Actually, the BBC is pretty much the 'One Nation Tory' broadcasting system: inclusive, rather fond of David Cameron, prepared to accuse the Guardian of trying to close down the News of the World, and put its journalists out of jobs.

Oh, Pat Condell is so bizarre, anyone who takes him seriously undoubtedly has similar problems with, um, people of different cultures, rather than the actions of some folk from whatever culture, including the UK's 'indigenous' people.

Just out of interest, do you realise that the UK, because of its history, numbers of invasions starting with the Celts taking land away from the Picts, and right up to its globe spanning empire, has one of the most ethnically mixed cultures in the world.

Mongrel English,
Black and Irish
Red, bedammned and Welsh or Roman
Catholic Celtic Anglo-Saxon true blue
Protestant ascendancy Asian African Jew
Dane, Pict, nonconformist, Scot,
Slave and slaver, lord and serf,
Town and gown and county
But above all
Bastard Mongrel British

And Pat Condell just can't get a grip on the fact. And it seems, neither can you.

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