[identity profile] kinvore.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/02/22/arizona.double.killing/?hpt=T2

I don't advocate the death penalty but I shed no tears for this woman. Here's the crux of the story: an anti-immigrant militant attacked a Latino family, killing the father and 9-year-old daughter (as she begged for her life), and shooting the mother who only survived because she pretended to die from the gunshot.

The murderers thought the father was a drug dealer and they wanted his money to finance their budding hate group. I guess that would have been a nifty recruiting tool for extremists, their willingness to kill Mexicans to get things done. Nevermind the fact that the victims were American-born citizens, such details are irrelevant when racial bigotry is concerned.

This is the sort of thing that happens when you fan the flames of hatred, dehumanization is the predecessor to atrocity. I'm surprised this didn't get more attention from the mainstream media, I guess they aren't as liberal as so many seem to think.

Ah

Date: 23/2/11 05:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
I'm human :D And honestly I merely air my opinions, I rarely actually try to influence anyone, even if I could. I enjoy discussion just for discussion's sake. It doesn't bother me to be wrong, as far as facts go, heck I don't even mind people thinking my opinions are wrong. I do kind of worry when I start thinking my opinions might be wrong, but if they turn out to be wrong, not being 30 any more, I can change them :D

Re: Ah

Date: 23/2/11 21:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] usekh.livejournal.com
Don't you think that rather than making excuses, and in fact seeming to take some pride in your blood lust, you should work to overcome it?

Re: Ah

Date: 24/2/11 01:21 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
What do you think should be done to people who torture, rape and murder children?

Re: Ah

Date: 24/2/11 02:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] usekh.livejournal.com
Shouldn't, for you, the more important question be what would Jesus think should be done to them? and do you really think he would be baying for their blood?

Re: Ah

Date: 24/2/11 03:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
You don't have an answer you are comfortable with?

Actually, since, I can't think of where that issue was addressed in scripture, I would have to guess, and then if I didn't agree with what someone else says, how will I know who is correct?

I know I nvited the term "baying", but it is overstating my position, which I did address my inability to clearly communicate in writing. I am working on it.

Re: Ah

Date: 24/2/11 03:22 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anosognosia.livejournal.com
"Actually, since, I can't think of where that issue was addressed in scripture..."

Someone being put to death by a state apparatus?

Hrmmm... yeah... nothing like that comes to mind from scripture.

:|

Re: Ah

Date: 24/2/11 03:38 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
Either you are being disingenuous, didn't comprehend the point of the discussion, my statement was totally muddled (which is altogether possible, since I have the bad habit of writing like it's a conversation), you are helping me to be more clear in what I mean, or you just like to get on my case for some reason.

Re: Ah

Date: 24/2/11 03:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anosognosia.livejournal.com
That's a pretty good list of possibilities really.

LOL

Date: 24/2/11 03:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
Thank you, I worked at it :D

Ah

Date: 24/2/11 03:11 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
Fair enough, I believe in retributiver justice.

So now we both know what the other believes, and we were able to actually get to that point without too much acrimony.

Re: Ah

Date: 24/2/11 05:16 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
yeah, except for the part where my way means that the state doesn't murder anyone.

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