[identity profile] dreadfulpenny81.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
Right now, I'm truly disgusted and ashamed of people within my own party who are either blaming Lara Logan for the brutal rape and assault that she endured or chalking it up to karma.

Two blogs - The Gateway Pundit and DebbieSchlussel.com - have both taken different but equally awful approaches to discussing what happened to Lara Logan.

First, a portion of the entry from Jim Hoft at The Gateway Pundit:
Lara Logan is lucky she’s alive.
Her liberal belief system almost got her killed on Friday. This talented reporter will never be the same.

Why did this attractive blonde female reporter wander into Tahrir Square last Friday? Why would she think this was a good idea? Did she not see the violence in the square the last three weeks? Did she not see the rock throwing? Did she miss the camels? Did her colleagues tell her about the Western journalists who were viciously assaulted on the Square? Did she forget about the taunts from the Egyptian thugs the day before? What was she thinking? Was it her political correctness that about got her killed? Did she think things would be different for her?
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Next, the entry from Debbie Schlussel:
As I’ve noted before, it bothers me not a lick when mainstream media reporters who keep telling us Muslims and Islam are peaceful get a taste of just how “peaceful” Muslims and Islam really are. In fact, it kinda warms my heart. Still, it’s also a great reminder of just how “civilized” these “people” (or, as I like to call them in Arabic, “Bahai’im” [Animals]) are...
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Schlussel also posted an update after receiving reaction on the entry:
The reaction of the left to this article is funny in its predictability. Sooo damn predictable. Of course I don’t support “sexual assault” or violence against Lara Logan, and I said that nowhere here. RIF–Reading Is Fundamental. Your premature articulation is a problem. I did say that it warms my heart when reporters who openly deny that Islam is violent and constantly promote it get the same kinds of threats of violence I get every day from Muslims. Because now they know how it feels. They aren’t so dismissive of the threats when those threats are directed at them, instead of at us little people. And yet they still won’t admit that THIS. IS. ISLAM. Lara Logan was among the chief cheerleaders of this “revolution” by animals. Now she knows what Islamic revolution is really all about.
Hoft chose a more "misogyny-on-parade" approach, focusing on her looks and asking condescending hypothetical questions about why she was there, as if her presence gave anyone the right to touch her in the first place. Schlussel, on the other hand, seems to imply that Logan's abuse was deserved based on an allegedly naive attitude about what the people were like and how they'd treat her.

It seems people have taken a casual attitude about rape in the past few years, and that's really bothersome. No wonder rapes go unreported in the world, when you have morons like these playing the victim-blame game.

EDIT: Seems it gets worse when you read the rest of Schlussel's entry:
So sad, too bad, Lara. No one told her to go there. She knew the risks. And she should have known what Islam is all about. Now she knows. Or so we'd hope. But in the case of the media vis-a-vis Islam, that's a hope that's generally unanswered.

This never happened to her or any other mainstream media reporter when Mubarak was allowed to treat his country of savages in the only way they can be controlled.

Now that's all gone. How fitting that Lara Logan was "liberated" by Muslims in Liberation Square while she was gushing over the other part of the "liberation."

Hope you're enjoying the revolution, Lara! Alhamdilllullah [praise allah].
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I want so badly to punch Debbie Schlussel in the face over and over and over again...

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Date: 16/2/11 21:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
I really don't understand why there's such opposition to this revolution on the Right. The Muslim Brotherhood really isn't running things.

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Date: 16/2/11 21:34 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
Because them camel humping animals don't know how to democracy. Its scary when they get uppity and start thinking they can rule themselves and not be controlled by a U.S. friendly dictator.

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Date: 16/2/11 21:38 (UTC)
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Wow, did those people miss the point. Of course she knew it was dangerous. That had been established. Journalists sometimes intentionally put themselves in dangerous situations in order to get information (and ratings).
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A coin with two sides

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I had two points

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Date: 16/2/11 21:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notmrgarrison.livejournal.com
Here's another: http://dailycaller.com/2011/02/15/nir-rosen-trashes-lara-logan-dismisses-her-sexual-assault/


I don't see how Schlussel's post says she deserved it. It is very anti-muslim however. Like KKK level racist.

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Date: 16/2/11 21:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mijopo.livejournal.com
Egypt is a hellhole for women in general, http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/17/world/fg-harassment17, here's hoping the revolution makes it better.

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Democracy will only make it worse for women. Sexism is popular and democracy is up with popular.

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Date: 16/2/11 21:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Unusual but we entirely agree on this. This kind of behavior, full-stop, is disgusting and indefensible. >.<

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Date: 16/2/11 21:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tridus.livejournal.com
These are people from the same country where violent shooting sprees are common? Man, Christians sure are violent animals that need to be controlled by a friendly dictator.


These blogs just show you the type of unmitigated bullshit that is the "right" these days. They've gone over into batshit insane territory.

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Date: 16/2/11 21:57 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notmrgarrison.livejournal.com
that is the "right" these days

The bloggers in the OP over-generalize. Good to see that you don't.

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Date: 16/2/11 22:02 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] novapsyche.livejournal.com
Yeah, because she planned to get separated from her crew.

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Date: 16/2/11 22:09 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Those "attractive blondes" really should cover themselves up or they're just asking for it!

/snark....

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Date: 17/2/11 08:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
Irony is that this is the kind of misogynistic comment that people condemn Islam for.

(I've spent like a minute trying to make this not sound like I'm not going at you... I'm adding to the snark!)

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Date: 16/2/11 22:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sealwhiskers.livejournal.com
It seems it's a lose-lose situation if you're a woman journalist. If you stay safe and report form a distance, you're a diva who don't want to get your hands dirty, if you go into the heat of fire, you get what you deserve.

This is something that was actually discussed in a thread here in TP not so long ago.

Also, how quaint that these blogs never mention all the rapes that take place in a Christian society. I guess maybe they weren't "real" rapes?
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Date: 16/2/11 22:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Yep. And it's not like so-called civilized countries with Christianity as their majority religion ever legally mandated women marry their rapists-oh wait.

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Date: 16/2/11 22:12 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
This never happened to her or any other mainstream media reporter when Mubarak was allowed to treat his country of savages in the only way they can be controlled.

Actually, as is noted above, Egypt has a fair awful record for treatment of women.

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Date: 16/2/11 22:17 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thies.livejournal.com
I have yet to see a society which is devoid of 'criminals' who will act on their impulses when they can get away with it. It's not called "being muslim" but more aptly described as "being human".

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Date: 17/2/11 00:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anadinboy.livejournal.com
islam takes those anti-social aspects of being human and makes them aspirational, thats why its so dodgy

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Yep.

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Date: 16/2/11 23:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] policraticus.livejournal.com
Er... the big news was on the Left, actually.

http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/259833/appalling-reaction-outrageous-crime

Nir Rosen has since left Twitter and resigned from NYU.

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Date: 16/2/11 23:12 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notmrgarrison.livejournal.com
First! (http://community.livejournal.com/talk_politics/899550.html?thread=68387038#t68387038)

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From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
This never happened to her or any other mainstream media reporter when Mubarak was allowed to treat his country of savages in the only way they can be controlled.

Now to put the lie to this evil cow: Overlooked: Mubarak Ordered Army To ‘Crush Demonstrators’ In Tahrir Square (http://www.mediaite.com/online/overlooked-mubarak-ordered-egyptian-army-to-crush-demonstrators-in-tahrir-square/)

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Date: 17/2/11 00:16 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anadinboy.livejournal.com
in uk we had some home grown muslims who planned on blowing up a nightclub. They discussed the innocence level of the victims first, and concluded it would be ok because of "all those slags dancing around" .

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Date: 17/2/11 00:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
But back to why white South Africans like being raped.

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Date: 17/2/11 01:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paedraggaidin.livejournal.com
Sadly, burning douchenozzlery is not a phenomenon limited to any particular group of people. This is disgusting and completely unjustifiable.

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Date: 17/2/11 02:27 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thies.livejournal.com
and ranks somewhere up there with Anderson NOT THE FACE Cooper in newswortiness in my opinion. which means, it's not news.

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Date: 17/2/11 03:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mybodymycoffin.livejournal.com
Where there is racism, sexism can not be far behind. And all, of course, tooting the horn of nationalism. They're playing for the World Series for Assholes.

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Date: 17/2/11 03:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mybodymycoffin.livejournal.com
(One more time)
Back in Freedomland, safe from the Mozlem Menace... (http://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/sexual-assault-victims)

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Date: 17/2/11 07:19 (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] normaltrouble.livejournal.com
A person suffering like Laura Logan did warms your heart ?

Shame. Shame. Shame on that blogger...Debbie Schlussel.

That is a horrific horrific sentiment to express and have. I do hope somebody enlightens her and she finds a way to change her heart and mind over this area of belief.






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Date: 17/2/11 08:22 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
Do these people mourn for soldiers killed in battle? I mean, it's foreseeable they will be killed, they're doing something that fits their belief system... Is it karma for them?
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Date: 17/2/11 14:11 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dukexmachismo.livejournal.com
There's some unintentional humor in bloggers criticizing an actual reporter for going somewhere dangerous. "She should sit on her ass in her mom's basement and make shit up, the way I do!"

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Date: 21/2/11 17:18 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ccr1138.livejournal.com
ABC News anchor Bob Woodruff and cameraman Doug Vogt are luck they're alive.
Their liberal belief system almost got them killed.

Why did these young, obviously Western reporters allow themselves to be embedded with an infantry unit in Iraq? Why would they think this was a good idea? Were they not aware of the violence of the insurgents? Did they miss the reports of IEDs? Did their colleagues tell them about the 61 journalists and 23 media support staff members who have already been killed there? What were they thinking? Was it their political correctness that got them killed? Did they think things would be different for them?

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