Simple Question of International Import

[malasadas.livejournal.com]

What are the odds that this gets a LOT worse by the traditional spring time offensive season when a young general's fancy turns to invasion?

Brief timeline:

North Korea is accused of torpedoing a South Korean warship.

South Korea fires at North Korean fishing boats crossing the maritime border North Korea refuses to recognize.

North Korea is revealed to have highly modern facilities for nuclear material enrichment.

Not to mention, North Korea is facing the challenge of passing along the regime to a third generation of the Kim family.

North Korea is known for rattling its sabre and demanding to have attention paid to it when it is being ignored, but this is looking like a very different than recent years -- South Korea really has to retaliate...and half of South Korea's population lives in the Seoul metropolitan area within artillery range of the DMZ.

So a question -- is North Korea suicidal or are they betting that this behavior can get them some more winter grain shipments?

Comments

[taurus-1.livejournal.com]

Yes, indeed I've never experienced and don't have to. Thanks a lot. The nearest few years I'd better stay away from USA as I can see from here, it's planned to be collapsed

[taurus-1.livejournal.com]

...and don't want to. -- that correct

[htpcl.livejournal.com]

So I thought. Well I've lived at both sides of the collapse of communism, and despite the many troubles we're having now, I can tell you I'd take the time After rather than the time Before, any day.

[ofbg.livejournal.com]

Our last election elected a bunch of people from a 'grass roots' movement that will have the ability to turn it around for the US, if the majority catches on and the new tea partiers grab a majority in congress in the next couple of elections.

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

Gawd, such statements really make me wish Christine O'Donnell were elected in Delaware. The lulz would've been limitless!

[dwer.livejournal.com]

MACROS FOR EVERYONE!

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

Words can make larger holes than macros.

[ofbg.livejournal.com]

0nly objective words.

[taurus-1.livejournal.com]

Yeah, yeah, yeah... Elections, elections, elections.
Is Barak Obama a legally chosen President?
Did he perform all of pre-elections obeys?
Is it true that the most (who voted for Obama) of the America people want to collapse their country? I think not. So why you have elected a man who's running to collapse? Is there any guarantee that the next elections will drive the American nation away from collapse?

BTW, DPRK (according to Wikipedia) also have had an elections in 1998, 2005 and 2008

[ddstory.livejournal.com]

Is Barak Obama a legally chosen President?

Are you contending that the last presidential elections were, by chance, rigged, therefore illegitimate? That's some pretty huge conspiracy we're talking here. Got some evidence? We're about facts here, right?

Did he perform all of pre-elections obeys?

Obeys? Didn't get that part too well. I assume you meant promises. Well, that's a problem. Does any politician ever fulfill 100% of their promises? What do they do promises for, during elections?

Returning to Kim - he says he'll bring prosperity to his people. Has he done it? And if not, who would hold him accountable for failing on his promises, and more importantly, how? Is that possible at all, since he holds all power tools in his country?

Is there any guarantee that the next elections will drive the American nation away from collapse?

Is there ever a guarantee for what would or would not happen in the future? Who can guarantee the future?

BTW, DPRK (according to Wikipedia) also have had an elections in 1998, 2005 and 2008

And let me guess. 100% of everybody voted for dear Kim. Right? Everybody just adores him so much they're afraid to even question him why they're so poor and starving. Love is crazy, isn't it?

[taurus-1.livejournal.com]

1. No. I believe Barak Obama is legally elected (according current laws).
2. Thanks for corrections, I've meant promises of course. Adolf Hitler, for example, did. Kim fulfiled his promises. People of NK live much better than 10 years ago (AFAIK). Sure, it's looks like latest Soviet Union on photos, but that's just the question of time.
3. God can :) Just follow his regulations, and everything will be Ok (with the highest possible degree of probability).
4. Have no information on that point to be honest. But it looks like yes. I don't see the problem here. This is not the selection between two or more candidates. It's mostly the procedure of people acceptance of the previously chosen leader.

[ddstory.livejournal.com]

People of NK live much better than 10 years ago (AFAIK). Sure, it's looks like latest Soviet Union on photos, but that's just the question of time.

There's some inconsistency here. First you say they live better than they used to (for which by the way you haven't provided any citation/evidence, as have you neither for any of your other claims) - and then you say it's a question of time (which implies it still hasn't happened but is bound to happen sometime in the future). Notice the discrepancy?

God can :) Just follow his regulations, and everything will be Ok

Which god exactly? There's no god in Juche ideology, you talked about the Koreans not wanting anyone to impose their foreign beliefs and systems on Koreans, didn't you?

It's mostly the procedure of people acceptance of the previously chosen leader.

It would only be fair if people were offered several alternatives to choose from. They weren't.

[taurus-1.livejournal.com]

1. Yes. That's because I've missed last words: a question of time to reach today level of industrial design.
2. I mean God as a decision-making person from the supremal functional level against our humanity system in terms of system analysis. How it is represented to us have no valueable meaning.
3. It is not selection. It is an approvement from people. To date, all of the decisions that needed an approvement were happily approved.

[ddstory.livejournal.com]

I don't think NK is anywhere near the modern level of industrial advancement, by any measure scale. An at the pace they've been "developing" (actually degrading) I don't think they'd ever reach it. They need a huge change if they're to catch up with the rest of the world, and the more it's being postponed the more painful the transition would be. For reference, look no further than what happened to all Eastern European countries after 1990, and the pains they had to endure while they were trying to shake off the consequences of living under a glass lid for nearly half a century.

God is not a person. Deal with it.

To date, all of the decisions that needed an approvement were happily forcefully approved.
Here. I fixed it for you.

You know, it's shocking to see someone who has lived under actual totalitarianism, and who has seen what real propaganda and real brainwashing looks like, and has experienced the results directly on his own -- now claiming all that is not the case in a country like North Korea. That either speaks of complete delusion on your part, or that you've just been pulling my leg all along, which wouldn't be well appreciated if that were the case.

[taurus-1.livejournal.com]

2. Person is an abstract. System analysis is about models of systems, not humans.
3. I'm sorry if my answers irritate you in some way, this is not what I wanted to achieve, really. Maybe this have happened just to see your charming userpic once again :) I think I should finish this discussion. Thank you for your passion, you help me a lot.

[ddstory.livejournal.com]

Your responses don't irritate me in any way. I don't want to leave a false impression. Yet they make me feel very strange.

OK see you around.

[chessdev.livejournal.com]

Most of the statements from taurus_1:

1. Seem contrary to most people's understanding

2. Lack evidence or reasoning

3. Use emotive language to try to illicit a response


Survey Says: TROLL. He's pulling your leg.

[ddstory.livejournal.com]

Let me reiterate what I said elsewhere.

I think he's deluded. A troll is someone who knows what they're talking is bullshit, but still does it anyway, for the sake of their own entertainment and at the expense of others.

Didn't we postulate here recently that meeting bullshit with bullshit = fail ; while meeting bullshit with reason & logic = potential results?

Besides I really want to see how the brains of that type (Russian megalomaniac nationalists) works. For the purpose I have to address them and dig a bit deeper. If I call him idiot, we're through, and I won't learn anything.

But then... Curiosity killed the cat.