[identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
What are the odds that this gets a LOT worse by the traditional spring time offensive season when a young general's fancy turns to invasion?

Brief timeline:

North Korea is accused of torpedoing a South Korean warship.

South Korea fires at North Korean fishing boats crossing the maritime border North Korea refuses to recognize.

North Korea is revealed to have highly modern facilities for nuclear material enrichment.

Not to mention, North Korea is facing the challenge of passing along the regime to a third generation of the Kim family.

North Korea is known for rattling its sabre and demanding to have attention paid to it when it is being ignored, but this is looking like a very different than recent years -- South Korea really has to retaliate...and half of South Korea's population lives in the Seoul metropolitan area within artillery range of the DMZ.

So a question -- is North Korea suicidal or are they betting that this behavior can get them some more winter grain shipments?

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Date: 24/11/10 11:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
People of NK live much better than 10 years ago (AFAIK). Sure, it's looks like latest Soviet Union on photos, but that's just the question of time.

There's some inconsistency here. First you say they live better than they used to (for which by the way you haven't provided any citation/evidence, as have you neither for any of your other claims) - and then you say it's a question of time (which implies it still hasn't happened but is bound to happen sometime in the future). Notice the discrepancy?

God can :) Just follow his regulations, and everything will be Ok

Which god exactly? There's no god in Juche ideology, you talked about the Koreans not wanting anyone to impose their foreign beliefs and systems on Koreans, didn't you?

It's mostly the procedure of people acceptance of the previously chosen leader.

It would only be fair if people were offered several alternatives to choose from. They weren't.

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Date: 24/11/10 12:40 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taurus-1.livejournal.com
1. Yes. That's because I've missed last words: a question of time to reach today level of industrial design.
2. I mean God as a decision-making person from the supremal functional level against our humanity system in terms of system analysis. How it is represented to us have no valueable meaning.
3. It is not selection. It is an approvement from people. To date, all of the decisions that needed an approvement were happily approved.

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Date: 24/11/10 13:13 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
I don't think NK is anywhere near the modern level of industrial advancement, by any measure scale. An at the pace they've been "developing" (actually degrading) I don't think they'd ever reach it. They need a huge change if they're to catch up with the rest of the world, and the more it's being postponed the more painful the transition would be. For reference, look no further than what happened to all Eastern European countries after 1990, and the pains they had to endure while they were trying to shake off the consequences of living under a glass lid for nearly half a century.

God is not a person. Deal with it.

To date, all of the decisions that needed an approvement were happily forcefully approved.
Here. I fixed it for you.

You know, it's shocking to see someone who has lived under actual totalitarianism, and who has seen what real propaganda and real brainwashing looks like, and has experienced the results directly on his own -- now claiming all that is not the case in a country like North Korea. That either speaks of complete delusion on your part, or that you've just been pulling my leg all along, which wouldn't be well appreciated if that were the case.

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Date: 24/11/10 14:09 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taurus-1.livejournal.com
2. Person is an abstract. System analysis is about models of systems, not humans.
3. I'm sorry if my answers irritate you in some way, this is not what I wanted to achieve, really. Maybe this have happened just to see your charming userpic once again :) I think I should finish this discussion. Thank you for your passion, you help me a lot.

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Date: 24/11/10 15:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
Your responses don't irritate me in any way. I don't want to leave a false impression. Yet they make me feel very strange.

OK see you around.

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Date: 24/11/10 14:18 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chessdev.livejournal.com
Most of the statements from taurus_1:

1. Seem contrary to most people's understanding

2. Lack evidence or reasoning

3. Use emotive language to try to illicit a response


Survey Says: TROLL. He's pulling your leg.

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Date: 24/11/10 15:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
Let me reiterate what I said elsewhere.

I think he's deluded. A troll is someone who knows what they're talking is bullshit, but still does it anyway, for the sake of their own entertainment and at the expense of others.

Didn't we postulate here recently that meeting bullshit with bullshit = fail ; while meeting bullshit with reason & logic = potential results?

Besides I really want to see how the brains of that type (Russian megalomaniac nationalists) works. For the purpose I have to address them and dig a bit deeper. If I call him idiot, we're through, and I won't learn anything.

But then... Curiosity killed the cat.

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