Sean Hannity's Idea of a Great American

[paft.livejournal.com]

No, not this guy:

Democratic Congrssional Candidate Bob Filner minutes after being harassed by a mob of his opponent’s suppoerters:

I’ve been through worse violence than this. I was in the Civil Rights movement in the 50s and 60s, I’ve been attacked with clubs and sticks by far better people than these. They really don’t understand what civil discourse and politics means. Politics has to be a civil discourse…

Filner talks minutes after being harassed on Election Night from Southwestern Sun on Vimeo.

THIS guy.

His name is Nick Popaditch. He was the Tea Party Candidate in San Diego for Congress, and was recently featured on Sean Hannity’s “Great American Panel.”

Here’s what his opponent, Bob Filner is talking about – and what Popaditch was apparently reacting to in the snapshot. For those unable to view videos:

From East Country Magazine:

Multiple credible news sites have reported that after Democratic Congressman Bob Filner was declared winner by a 20-point margin, a mob of Popaditch supporters, including Tea Party and white supremacist members, cornered and spat on Popaditch’s opponent, Filner. Video by the Chula Vista Star News reveals that Popaditch cursed at Filner, called him a liar, and made no efforts to calm down an increasingly virulent mob that forced Filner out of Golden Hall’s Election Central and into the lobby. Filner told CityBeat that he was shoved by Popaditch.

In the second video, at the 1:58 minute mark, you can see a little boy. He doesn't look much more than 13. I don't know whether he was with the Filner group, or the Popaditchers, but either way, the behavior he's seeing from the Popaditch supporters isn't exactly edifying. He's either getting a lesson in just how frightening a mob can be, or he's learning that spitting, screaming, and threatening is an appropriate reaction to an election not going the way you'd like it to.

And lest anyone mistake this for a momentary aberration of high emotion sparked by losing an election by 20 points – here’s how some of these supporters see themselves and their behavior on November 2:

Crossposted from Thoughtcrimes

Comments

Putting this in two comments, apologies as this is the kind of thing that needs two:

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

In response to this, this man is one of those of the past the Tea Party no doubt considers a "Great American." To get the nightmare most prevalent, the man writing this wrote this in 1947:

The campaign for complete equality launched by the Negro leaders has now reached alarming
proportions. The communists in this country have secretly and openly tried to indoctrinate the
Negroes with the idea of social equality with the white race for their own purposes and as part
of their plan to overthrow the American dual system of Constitutional government. (1) The
great majority of white Americans have failed to realize the intensity of this campaign for racial
equality and for the abolition of racial segregation in this Nation. Some have known of these
efforts but have failed to realize the dangers that are involved. A few deluded whites have
collaborated with the colored leaders in their efforts to break down the racial barriers and force
the social equality of the races...

White America must be awakened!

The Negro
problem has been with us too long already. Through the years, noble attempts have been made
to improve race relations and to relieve racial tension, but such efforts have been merely
pouring oil on the troubled waters. The cause for the trouble has remained and we must now
awake and arise to seek a permanent solution to the race problem or else be forever engulfed by
it.

The voice of the 1940s Tea Party:

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

It is our contention that even if science and history did not prove the mix-breed to be the
inferior of whites, there is still another reason why the intermingling of the blood of the races
should never be sanctioned. We approach all questions with a belief in the existence of a
Supreme Ruler Whose laws can not be denied. The very fact that separate and distinct races of
mankind have been created makes it impossible for anyone to claim that God did not ordain the
racial distinction. When man breaks the laws of God and brings about the mixing of the blood
of the different races, he and his posterity will pay the penalty.

In asking for the complete political, economic, and social equality of the races, the Negro
leaders are unquestionably asking that Negroes be accorded the right to marry white people. In the majority of interracial marriages which take place in the North the man is a Negro or
mulatto and the woman white. It has been estimated from studies of intermarriage in Boston,
New York, Michigan, Rhode Island, and Massachusetts that in eighty-three percent of the white-
Negro marriages, the groom is a Negro. Regardless of how one may view the
laws of man regarding intermarriage of the races, the laws of God are undeniable. It has been so
ordained that when a white woman crosses the color line and marries outside her race, she does
not reproduce herself; she can not perpetuate the blood of her race. She becomes the mother of a
colored child, not a white one. From this truth, there is no escape. The white people of the various states of this Nation have a right to forbid interracial marriage
by law. And whether such statutes exist or not, they have the right to condemn by public
opinion and by social ostracism any white man or woman who crosses the color line and
marries a Negro. Self-preservation is a universal law and the prohibition of itnterracial marriage
is necessary for the preservation of the white race.

The half-breed Negroes in the United States are objectionable factors to our Nation and to our
civilization. Many of them specialize in agitating the race question and promoting conflict
between the white and black races. "They are dangerous from whatever point we may elect to
view them, says Dr. Shufeldt, "as they may possess all the vicious and sensual traits of the
negro, without the color of the latter's skin as a warning flag to the unwary. In any question at
issue they will invariably choose sides with the colored race, and from their keener wits and
higher intelligence they are capable of giving a greater amount of trouble. Then, too, mulattoes
have better opportunities to contract white alliances in marriage, and thus insidiously perpetuate
their savage blood. This is most deplorable; for, as I have frequently remarked, the negro has
absolutely nothing of the slightest value in his organization that can be added to our own; while,
on the other hand, nearly everything about him, mentally, morally and physically, is undesirable
in the highest degree. Mulattoes have no higher sense of our civilization than has the black
stock from which they are derived. I have found them equally superstitious, treacherous,
mendacious, and unreliable. The better class of hybrids command place and position in this
country; many regard them as colored doctors, colored lawyers, colored clergymen, colored
poets and authors and so on; whereas, as a matter of fact, they are nothing of the kind - they are
hybrids, nothing more nor less, and often with a very minute tincture of the African blood in
them."

Hell of it is that two years earlier this man would be wearing black shirts with runes on his shoulder tab and shouting "Deutschland Erwache" if you didn't realize this man was a governor of a mainstream political party. I'm quite sure that men like George Wallace and Oval Faubus resented the heavy-handed interference of the US government. Poor darlings. /growls

Re: The voice of the 1940s Tea Party:

[tcpip.livejournal.com]

The very fact that separate and distinct races of mankind have been created makes it impossible for anyone to claim that God did not ordain the racial distinction.

Just imagine applying that to blood types, eye colour and hair colour.

Or maybe even fur colour (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garth_Williams#The_Rabbits.27_Wedding_controversy)!

Re: Putting this in two comments, apologies as this is the kind of thing that needs two:

[reality-hammer.livejournal.com]

Why would the Tea Party think a Democrat was a great American?

Or a socialist?

You really haven't been listening, have you?

Re: Putting this in two comments, apologies as this is the kind of thing that needs two:

[meus-ovatio.livejournal.com]

Well, if some of them can think that Confederates were great Americans, the least they could do was think a Democrat could be a great American. Oh wait, you can't, because you actually think your enemies are your country-mates. With friends like these, who needs enemies?

Re: Putting this in two comments, apologies as this is the kind of thing that needs two:

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

As I remember a good deal of them admire Jefferson Davis and his boobies. I assure that Senator Davis of Mississippi wasn't a Republican.

[eracerhead.livejournal.com]

Thank you for posting this as I hadn't heard of it on the 'liberal' media.

We have this from Popaditch supporters, the head stomping incident from a Rand Paul staffer and the detention of a reporter by Miller's security. We have other tea party candidates talking about 'second amendment remedies' and let us not forget the shouting matches intended to shut down public debate during congressional recesses and a slate of candidates whose only common feature apparently, is ignorance.

Tea partiers are racking up a spectacular track record, aren't they? And they didn't even need any help.

[drcruel.livejournal.com]

And yet, people voted for them. That's one of the many things that bugs me about the tea party-they just don't seem to care what their nominees do. There's nothing that their candidates can do that crosses the line or turns these supposed independents away from the Republican candidate.

[mrbogey.livejournal.com]

'Politics has to be a civil discourse'

"... and these people I've just slandered as being worse than racist just ain't civil like us folks."

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

Ain't nothing civil about calling the President an African Muslim here to take our freedoms for the evil Red Horde that will be rising from the grave any day now to hail our new Satanic Overlord. If that's what qualifies as civil, well more power to you. I can play that game a lot better than progressives can for the good reason I ain't half as interested in politeness as those people.

[paft.livejournal.com]

Yeeeessss, mrbogey. Denouncing the people who just mobbed you, spat on you, and crowded around you to the point where you and the people with you have to be extracted by a security detail is JUST AS BAD as mobbing someone, spitting on them, etc...

[mrbogey.livejournal.com]

'Denouncing the people...'

Oh, is that what he meant when he said they were worse than racists.

I agree...why can't we have peaceful discourse?

[light-over-me.livejournal.com]

If You Can’t Beat Them, Choke Them– (http://southcapitolstreet.com/2010/10/29/moveon-org-goon-chokes-jesse-kelly-supporter-video/)

Clash Of The Spitter/Pushers vs. Palms Springs Tea Party Coalition And Republican Womens Federated of Palms Springs (http://www.can-you-hear-us-now.com/2010/10/clash-of-titans-palms-springs-tea-party.html)

Re: I agree...why can't we have peaceful discourse?

[paft.livejournal.com]

Are you serious? You're comparing a scuffle between two men and a crowd of Tea Partiers surrounding four quiet, mostly smiling MoveOn Demonstrators (none of whom I spotted "spitting" or "Pushing") with a howling mob surrounding a politician they dislike while their Tea Party candidate smirks and does nothing to calm the situation?

Re: I agree...why can't we have peaceful discourse?

[light-over-me.livejournal.com]

But hey, if choking, and pushing, and spitting aren't enough for ya, how about liberal thugs beating down a black man, just because he happens to agree with the Tea Party?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe5J22JPNnU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFeUhSlHiUQ

This is only scratching the surface of liberal violence. I could go on, and I will if you want me to. For every violent conservative you post, I will show you a violent liberal. We can play this game for hours.

Or here's a novel idea: how about we stop pointlessly fanning the flames and pointing fingers, when violence can be found on both sides? He who is without sin shall cast the first stone eh?

[dreadfulpenny81.livejournal.com]

I am so sick and tired of the anti-Tea Party bias in this community. Just once, I would LOVE to see paft and others swallow their B.S. and say one positive thing about the Tea Party without it being a snarky, under-handed attack. Just one.

And that's probably NEVER going to happen.

[htpcl.livejournal.com]

I agree that a little more respect wouldn't hurt anyone.

[light-over-me.livejournal.com]

Thank you.

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

And I'm so sick and tired of wide generalizations about this or any other community based on what one arbitrarily chooses to selectively read/hear from a few individuals while disregarding all the rest.

[dwer.livejournal.com]

why would it happen? Seriously? These people are, at best, uninformed, willing dupes of people who could not care less about their best interest, and at worst, lying racist scumbags.

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

Sure, I'll say something positive for them: they're the best thing that's ever happened to Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. :-).

I mean that entirely positively and by no means as an attack on the Tea Party. :-).

[reality-hammer.livejournal.com]

Fear drives them.

[paft.livejournal.com]

No, I don't like the Tea Party movement and I have little that's positive to say about them, just as I have had little that's positive to say about The John Birch Society, the Militia movement, and the White Citizens Councils of my youth.

And this video is a big part of why.

[light-over-me.livejournal.com]

And you know, there ARE positive things to say too, like, for example, how several minority candidates won on Tuesday, and history was made with the first female Hispanic in one state, thanks to the TP/GOP. They could start there.