Talk politics.

Blind partisanship gets to me too. I particularly hate it when grown-ass people respond to someone else's douchebaggery with douchebagger of their own. You throw rocks, I'll throw rocks; then you'll know how it feels and see the error of your ways.

Or when someone says "See what happened over there? They have, can, and will do it to us!" When incidents like this happen, and the first reaction is not toward what is going on and the individuals involved, but rather, who represents me in it and what does their presence say about me, yeah that's pretty disgusting too.

I mean, if it's that important to you to stay on target with responding to the kind of characterization of a liberal person you're obviously bothered by, based on your comments here, be my guest. I'm sure you'll have fun. I'm not seeing how it's going to encourage people on either side, even those who share your politics, to individualize the situations, though.

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And the damned shame of it all is that I'd prefer to sit down over maybe an adult beverage and discuss issues without all the simple minded sniping. But I can do the rock thing too.

Whichever.

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I don't think I could do the rock thing. I wouldn't want someone to do that to me.

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I will try to keep that in mind going forward.

No, seriously, you seem pretty reasonable judging by the few interactions we've had so far.

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Thanks. And likewise, which is why I thought this whole thing was really out of character for you.

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Even my patience has its limits. I can go one way, or the other, real fast. And it's largely up to the other person.

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I can see that, I suppose. Personally, I try my hardest to avoid crowds that would hold situations like that up as demonstrative of what a conservative or a liberal ideology can lead to, and rather attribute it to a varied number of other factors. Liberal and conservative, left and right, are just entirely too broad.

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Yes. I am actually a liberal (though not a "leftist" or collectivist... or "modern" liberal.) And the left/right spectrum is really pretty useless.

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I don't think it's that so much. I just think liberalism and conservatism, whatever definition you take to either word, are too broad to characterize like people try to do. It's a weak and unnuanced way of thinking, to me.

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What do you consider yourself?

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Liberal Democrat, with a touch of feh at politics entirely lol.

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You'd stomp his head if given the chance.

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I'd at least ask first. That's just good manners.

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Agenda!!!!

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That's a surprise. I never imagined you're liberal. Care to explain some more?

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Sure, I'm a classical (Jeffersonian) liberal, essentially what liberalism was before being co-opted by the socialists (no offense) a century or so ago. The reason you probably never imagined I'm a liberal is that economic issues are my hot buttons, and when it comes to economic issues most modern conservatives are too far to the "left" from where I'm standing. But once it's been established that the printing press isn't the best solution to help a given set of people, the difference between myself and most conservatives, as I see it, is that the conversation isn't over. We've still got figure out some sort of alternative solution to government handouts. And I'm just as opposed to corporate welfare, if not more so.

And then when it comes to social issues, I'm rather permissive, or "liberal."

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the damned shame of it all is that I'd prefer to sit down over maybe an adult beverage and discuss issues without all the simple minded sniping.

Bullshit. You drew first snipe with "They'd do it to us if they had the chance." while salivating over "how tempting it is [to assault libs]"

Own up to it.

Edited Date: 3/11/10 21:16 (UTC)

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Yeah, that's right, I was salivating over assaulting libs while telling someone else that it's uncalled for.

That's not an idiotic assumption on your part at all.

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Granted. I took exception to you describing how much you want to and such.

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