[identity profile] kinvore.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
When Bush held speeches and town hall meetings he would corral all protesters far out of sight and earshot and call these "free speech zones". He had no tolerance for dissenting opinions.

For those who think Obama is no different I present another example. During his town hall meeting today a man with a gun stood outside the school, holding a sign quoting Jefferson: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

He was monitored but because he was technically not breaking any laws (he was a private property, a church gave him permission to be there, how Christian of them).

This is exactly the mindset that I'm talking about that needs to change. I know he's just a douchebag that wants attention (and is getting it, even from me) but it's funny how much Republicans and Conservatives would howl about how much we need to respect the President, until we elect a Democratic one.

I don't know what point this guy is trying to make other than a thinly-veiled threat to the President. I hear Obama's detractors calling him a tyrant but I have yet to see him remove a single right from anyone.

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Date: 11/8/09 18:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pantsu.livejournal.com
Relatively OT but that's one of my favourite quotes.

Anyway, I personally wouldn't see much of a problem with sending protesters a certain distance away. If they loudly disrupt the speech would they not be impeding on the speaker's right to free speech by drowning it out?
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Date: 11/8/09 20:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] koneko-desu.livejournal.com
That's a matter of opinion and subjectivity. Don't push your opinions as facts onto others.
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Date: 11/8/09 22:11 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Correct, people shouting over speakers at town hall meetings aren't preventing free speech but they are being fucktards.

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Date: 11/8/09 21:09 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] koneko_desu, this is [livejournal.com profile] brucenstein, and this is what he does.

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Date: 11/8/09 22:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcpreacher.livejournal.com
no it isn't

people are allowed to say whatever

the state is not allowed to restrict that

president bush was "the state"

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Date: 12/8/09 04:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pantsu.livejournal.com
Explain how they wouldn't.

Removing people from a certain place so they can exercise their freedom of speech someplace else is a lot better than letting them drown out another speaker's rights. If you're going to refute my claim/question then you owe me an explanation.

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