No difference, eh?
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When Bush held speeches and town hall meetings he would corral all protesters far out of sight and earshot and call these "free speech zones". He had no tolerance for dissenting opinions.
For those who think Obama is no different I present another example. During his town hall meeting today a man with a gun stood outside the school, holding a sign quoting Jefferson: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
He was monitored but because he was technically not breaking any laws (he was a private property, a church gave him permission to be there, how Christian of them).
This is exactly the mindset that I'm talking about that needs to change. I know he's just a douchebag that wants attention (and is getting it, even from me) but it's funny how much Republicans and Conservatives would howl about how much we need to respect the President, until we elect a Democratic one.
I don't know what point this guy is trying to make other than a thinly-veiled threat to the President. I hear Obama's detractors calling him a tyrant but I have yet to see him remove a single right from anyone.
For those who think Obama is no different I present another example. During his town hall meeting today a man with a gun stood outside the school, holding a sign quoting Jefferson: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
He was monitored but because he was technically not breaking any laws (he was a private property, a church gave him permission to be there, how Christian of them).
This is exactly the mindset that I'm talking about that needs to change. I know he's just a douchebag that wants attention (and is getting it, even from me) but it's funny how much Republicans and Conservatives would howl about how much we need to respect the President, until we elect a Democratic one.
I don't know what point this guy is trying to make other than a thinly-veiled threat to the President. I hear Obama's detractors calling him a tyrant but I have yet to see him remove a single right from anyone.
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Date: 11/8/09 19:46 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 11/8/09 20:24 (UTC)Ain't history grand?
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Date: 11/8/09 18:45 (UTC)Anyway, I personally wouldn't see much of a problem with sending protesters a certain distance away. If they loudly disrupt the speech would they not be impeding on the speaker's right to free speech by drowning it out?
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Date: 11/8/09 18:49 (UTC)It's certainly a step up from having to sign a loyalty oath to get into a speech by the vice-president or people getting arrested for their t-shirts.
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Date: 11/8/09 19:11 (UTC)BusHitler!
Date: 11/8/09 21:36 (UTC)Re: BusHitler!
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Date: 11/8/09 22:09 (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 11/8/09 19:09 (UTC)/snaps fingers.
I got nothin' t' say except I agree wit' yeh.
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Date: 11/8/09 21:16 (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 11/8/09 21:15 (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 11/8/09 21:07 (UTC)*sigh* You just don't get it, do you? He's black.
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Date: 11/8/09 21:15 (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 11/8/09 21:34 (UTC)I am way beyond liberals being shocked that the First and Second Amendments mean what they say.
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Oh, and:
"I have yet to see him remove a single right from anyone."
That never stopped the Bush haters from declaring him BusHitler, did it?
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Date: 11/8/09 21:52 (UTC)Re: You must be shocked, shocked, you say!
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Date: 11/8/09 22:07 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 11/8/09 22:54 (UTC)just let the cops in your house and answer all their questions and don't raise your voice
if you did nothing wrong ya ain't got nothin' to be afraid of
LOOK HOW FUCKING FREE WE ARE
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Date: 11/8/09 23:04 (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 11/8/09 23:36 (UTC)I agree.
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Date: 11/8/09 23:47 (UTC)Obama's tyranny
Date: 11/8/09 23:53 (UTC)How about that Swastika in Georgia? Now, that's tellin' 'em what the opponents are truly all about.
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Date: 12/8/09 00:16 (UTC)In that case it would really be an Aryan Symbol.
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Date: 12/8/09 05:06 (UTC)On the other hand I don't see how is not arresting a law abiding citizen related to not letting trespassers into some private meeting.
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Date: 12/8/09 06:39 (UTC)are you making a reference to something?
are you implying the guy was merely planning on peacefully shooting his own beard off?
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