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talkpoliticsJust to inject some facts into this debate:
I am not taking a position in this post, this is just for people to inform themselves, analyze the facts, and come to a logical conclusion, rather than listen to the media bloviate about the subject.
I don't need to take a position in this post. People need to see the facts and talk about the facts. My opinion on these facts will come out in the comments.
To respond to some of the comments in the deleted post, these facts are not intended to make a coherent point. That is the point of the post. There are a lot of facts out there and they don't all agree or line up easily. Opinion makers pick and choose which ones they want to use to "prove" their opinion and don't tell you about the other ones. I'd prefer to give you all the facts and then we can have a complete and logical discussion rather than an emotional one based on partial information (or sometimes outright lies). Feel free to submit some more facts that you have access to. These items were not picked based on anything other than that they are statistics and facts. I can guarantee you that they are not all biased one particular way, and if you actually read them, you'll see that. If you want to call the FBI or the CDC biased or bullshit, take that up with them.
Also, don't focus entirely on the picture. That is just one item, not the point of the post.
- "Gun Control Facts." By James D. Agresti and Reid K. Smith. Just Facts, September 13, 2010. Revised 12/28/12.
- 9 Must-See Gun Control Statistics
- Twelve facts about guns and mass shootings in the United States
- FBI UCR Murder Victims by Weapon 2006-2010
- CDC Leading causes of death 2009
- Top 5 causes of accidental death in the U.S.
I am not taking a position in this post, this is just for people to inform themselves, analyze the facts, and come to a logical conclusion, rather than listen to the media bloviate about the subject.
I don't need to take a position in this post. People need to see the facts and talk about the facts. My opinion on these facts will come out in the comments.
To respond to some of the comments in the deleted post, these facts are not intended to make a coherent point. That is the point of the post. There are a lot of facts out there and they don't all agree or line up easily. Opinion makers pick and choose which ones they want to use to "prove" their opinion and don't tell you about the other ones. I'd prefer to give you all the facts and then we can have a complete and logical discussion rather than an emotional one based on partial information (or sometimes outright lies). Feel free to submit some more facts that you have access to. These items were not picked based on anything other than that they are statistics and facts. I can guarantee you that they are not all biased one particular way, and if you actually read them, you'll see that. If you want to call the FBI or the CDC biased or bullshit, take that up with them.
Also, don't focus entirely on the picture. That is just one item, not the point of the post.
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Date: 30/12/12 14:10 (UTC)As I said the last time, I like waffles. Who likes waffles? BTW, citing things that aren't homicide in attempts to prove a point against particular types of homicide is like going into a thread about tax issues and talking about Caesar and psychiatry. Or as Bugs Bunny would have put it, you should have taken another turn at Albuquerque.
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Date: 31/12/12 12:10 (UTC)Let's see if I'm going to encounter more of these as my reading of the thread progresses.
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Date: 31/12/12 12:08 (UTC)