George Zimmerman is a God Warrior!

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A few new details have come out in the case of George Zimmerman that I think ought to be brought to light in this community.





For one, Zimmerman and his lovely wife commmitted perjury!

This is particularly relevant as it shows a. a disrespect for the law, and b. George Zimmerman is perfectly happy lying when it suits his needs. Given that he is the sole witness to the murder that should cast some serious doubts on his inconsistent story!

Or is he the only witness?

Then of course is the revelation that Zimmerman sexually assaulted his cousin for more than a decade. Why is a sexual assault relevant to Zimmerman's second degree murder charge? Amanda Marcotte of Slate puts it well;

"In fact, accusations like these are completely relevant for two major reasons. The first is that, as feminists have been saying for decades now, sexual assault isn't really just a matter of someone's horniness overtaking him and causing him to pig out on a woman's body as if he hasn't eaten all day and she's a piece of cake shoved in front of him. Sexual abuse is a form of bullying, a violent crime whose pleasure for the attacker is far more about enjoying their power and dominance over the victim than it is about sexual urges. Subsequently, sexually violent men tend to be more violent generally, particularly against people they believe are lesser or weaker. If you're trying to establish that Zimmerman had it in him to hunt down and murder a teenager who is much smaller than himself, than a history of sexual assault does help demonstrate this.

Also: A lot of the prosecution's case depends on establishing whether or not Zimmerman is a glib liar who is capable of viciously attacking people and then playing the innocent "who me?" card while insinuating that the victim was asking for it. Pretty much all men who sexually assault women have developed an ability to do this; part of the routine of a rapist is terrifying and hurting someone only to convince the community to embrace him after the fact and write off the victim as hysterical, a liar, or a slut trying to cover her tracks. We know that most sexual assailants are repeat offenders—indeed, this is what the accuser in this case is claiming of Zimmerman—which means they have a lot of opportunities to practice playing innocent and blaming the victim after they've committed the crime. If the prosecution wants to establish that Zimmerman is the kind of guy who is capable of assaulting and even murdering someone and then playing innocent victim, a history of cutting his teeth as a sexual assailant helps establish that narrative."

Oh and his cousin also claims that his entire family has a bit of a problem with the blacks! Surely that will help out if there is to be a federal hate crime charge and conviction

Of course Zimmerman doth protest

How has the latest information affected your opinion in the case? Is any of this new information relevant in your mind to the case? Was Trayvon Martin's murder all part of God's plan???

Comments

[rowsdowerisms.livejournal.com]

You seem to think any of these accusations and charges are proven, and assume they have merit.

And you seem to believe anything that comes out of Zimmerman's mouth. I'd be happy to discuss particulars but I posted to multiple links and I don't know which ones you are referring to as without merit.
And was she convicted, or was the new information that was put forward enough to make a change on the bond level?

Huh? Not mutually exclusive again bro. She hasn't been tried yet. Zimmerman's bond was raised 8 fold and significant restrictions on his person were imposed. Are you still of the position that they weren't lying by omission???

It's irrelevant to the case, and, more importantly, completely without evidence.

Yeah I already posted why I think it is relevant. If you wanna put on your big boy pants and offer an explanation as to why it is irrelevant go for it. Also witness testimony is evidence. Significant evidence. Especially in cases of sexual assault. Not to mention her entire fucking family met with him at a restaurant where he apologized for being a perv.
Not really. Those who think Zimmerman did something wrong are throwing everything against the wall and hoping something sticks. This isn't news.

That's generally how a criminal prosecution works. Evidently that's news to you.
Mainly because there was nothing in the case up to this point that pointed at racism.

I don't think you really get racism. Its a pretty insidious beast.
I will gladly add that to this post if that's what you want. I feel your post is an excellent example of it.

Go for it. I feel the same way about you!

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And you seem to believe anything that comes out of Zimmerman's mouth

Not at all. It just so happens that a lot of what comes out of Zimmerman's mouth matches the evidence.

I'd be happy to discuss particulars but I posted to multiple links and I don't know which ones you are referring to as without merit.

I'm pretty much talking about nearly all of them, but specifically the ones I highlighted.

Zimmerman's bond was raised 8 fold and significant restrictions on his person were imposed. Are you still of the position that they weren't lying by omission???

I see no evidence to suggest as such at this point. Arguing that she should have known (because she should have) is different than arguing that she did know.

That's generally how a criminal prosecution works. Evidently that's news to you.

Not at all, but it's rare we get to see it in such a bright light. The sunlight is a great disinfectant so far.

I don't think you really get racism. Its a pretty insidious beast.

Yes, racism is very insidious. It's also not nearly as prevalent as some want to believe. Those assigning race to this case have not progressed very far from the initial reports.

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Not at all. It just so happens that a lot of what comes out of Zimmerman's mouth matches the evidence.


Except when it doesn't (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-06-27/news/os-george-zimmerman-inconsistencies-20120626_1_shooting-dispatcher-police)

I'm pretty much talking about nearly all of them, but specifically the ones I highlighted.
Yeah and you have yet to give any indication as to why they have no merit even after I SPECIFICALLY ASKED YOU TO MAKE AN ARGUMENT.

I see no evidence to suggest as such at this point. Arguing that she should have known (because she should have) is different than arguing that she did know.

Considering the financial forensic evidence and the taped conversations, I'd say it's pretty much a done deal that she knew how much money she had. You got anything to counter it?
Not at all, but it's rare we get to see it in such a bright light. The sunlight is a great disinfectant so far.


I wasn't aware of your vast knowledge in prosecutorial tactics.
Yes, racism is very insidious. It's also not nearly as prevalent as some want to believe. Those assigning race to this case have not progressed very far from the initial reports.

Yeah

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

Considering the financial forensic evidence and the taped conversations, I'd say it's pretty much a done deal that she knew how much money she had. You got anything to counter it?

I disagree that what you're citing actually proves anything.

And given that you need to rely on Tim Wise? All I need to know.

[rowsdowerisms.livejournal.com]

I disagree that what you're citing actually proves anything.

And the judge disagrees with you.
Good to know you are completely and totally incapable of forming an argument.

And given that you need to rely on Tim Wise? All I need to know.

Once again BDJ displays lovelyyyyy logic for all to see. First off my arguments haven't rested on Tim Wise. I embedded the clip to give you some perspective on race relations. Secondly, that you choose to not even make an argument against him speaks more about you than it does about him, what with you invoking an ad hominem that has NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING I SAID.
If O'Mara's as incompetent as you are in developing an argument, Zimmerman's sure to fry.

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The fact you didnt even listen to Tim Wise....
you *are* exactly who he talks about in the video.

[rowsdowerisms.livejournal.com]

So easy to discount the systemic inequalities.

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What's funny is Jeff and a few others are so invested in believing racism doesnt exist ("its not racism -- it's class warfare")

that literally I've seen people on this forum argue they didnt believe the Identity Christians, Aryan Nations or the Order were really racist.

The discussion was about a burning a cross at a"Whites Only" event with a group associated HEAVILY with the KKK.... and literally people were arguing they didnt see anything racist about it....


and this is the type of personality that feels comfortable discounting Tim Wise out of hand...

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

I've listened to enough of him.

[spaz-own-joo.livejournal.com]

It's also not nearly as prevalent as some want to believe

I would like to see you support this assertion with something more solid than conjecture