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Texas Primary Voter on Governor Rick Perry allowing the execution of Cameron Todd Willingham, a man who was probably innocent: It takes balls to execute an innocent man.




Brian Williams to Governor Rick Perry: Your state has executed 234 death row inmates, more than any other governor in modern times…

(Audience bursts into applause and whistles)






Wolf Blitzer: ..you're a physician, Ron Paul, so you're a doctor. You know something about this subject. Let me ask you this hypothetical question. A healthy 30-year-old young man has a good job, makes a good living, but decides, you know what? I'm not going to spend $200 or $300 a month for health insurance because I'm healthy, I don't need it. But something terrible happens, all of a sudden he needs it.


Who's going to pay if he goes into a coma, for example? Who pays for that?


Ron Paul: Well, in a society that you accept welfarism and socialism, he expects the government to take care of him.


Blitzer: Well, what do you want?


Paul: But what he should do is whatever he wants to do, and assume responsibility for himself. My advice to him would have a major medical policy, but not be forced --


Blitzer: But he doesn't have that. He doesn't have it, and he needs intensive care for six months. Who pays?


Paul: That's what freedom is all about, taking your own risks. This whole idea that you have to prepare and take care of everybody –


Blitzer: But Congressman, are you saying that society should just let him die?


Audience: Yeah! Yeeeesss!








Zealotry is the worship of an idea at the expense of human beings. This is true whether the idea being worshiped is Jesus, Allah, Buddha, Jehovah, The State, or the Master Race.

Or the Free Market.

Zeolots are marked by their willingness to go that extra mile, to cheer on the death and suffering of those outside their own sacred circle. They think it’s a sign of strength, of courage, of heard-jawed will. At worst, they’ll torture and kill. At best, they’ll not just allow others to die from sickness and hunger, they’ll cheer on those deaths as a salutary cleansing of society.

It is becoming more and more apparent that the Tea Party is made up of zealots, who are not only willing to see fellow Americans die, but are downright enthused about the idea.

Yessir, they like them some dyin’.

It’s interesting to note Ron Paul’s response to Blitzer’s question. After glancing rather nervously out at the audience, he replied:



No. I practiced medicine before we had Medicaid, in the early 1960s, when I got out of medical school. I practiced at Santa Rosa Hospital in San Antonio, and the churches took care of them. We never turned anybody away from the hospitals.



That’s nice, but in the context of Paul’s earlier comments, it makes no sense. Really? Private charity is sure to step in every time and save a life? If that were the case, why would people have less expectations about being taken care of in the event of sickness? I thought the whole point of Paul’s opposition to “welfarism” was keepin 'em scared.

Paul is, to put it quite bluntly, lying. He knows about Mark Price dying in Arizona because he couldn’t afford a heart transplant. He knows that charity has never been able, and won’t be able to fill the gap left if government doesn’t offer assistance for healthcare.

Ron Paul thinks people should literally and reasonably fear dying, not because a cure isn’t available, but because they couldn’t afford it. He thinks a young man dying in that way would be a good thing, would put the fear of God in all those lousy deadbeats who can’t afford to pay for health insurance. In short, Paul’s answer is inconsistent with his earlier statements.

The audience’s response isn’t. The audience response is the honest one.

Crossposted from Thoughtcrimes

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Date: 13/9/11 21:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 404.livejournal.com
Premature celebration: I think there is a pill for that now.

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Date: 13/9/11 21:13 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com
Funny thing is, i've seen a very similar situation IRL, only in rugby (which is not too different when you think of it).

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Date: 13/9/11 21:22 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 404.livejournal.com
Bottom line, celebrate after scoring.

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Date: 13/9/11 21:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com
Or after making sure you've saved.

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Date: 13/9/11 22:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
Technically that was a fumble, and I wonder if the other guys got the ball and ran with it.

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Date: 14/9/11 00:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-new-machine.livejournal.com
Looked like they were going for it.

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