[identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
Yes, that's a pretty goading subject line. It's supposed to be. Here's my backing evidence.


George Stephenson's Rocket, the first
commercially practical steam locomotive.


This is the beast that started it all, The Rocket. In 1829, this coal powered locomotive won the prize offered for practical mechanical means of conveyance. Coal had been fueling industrial production for a century prior to the Rocket; wind, captured by sails, had been bringing raw materials to and delivering finished goods from those coal-powered factories.

It is metaphorically satisfying to talk about threads being woven together when talking about cotton, but the thread that mattered to the Liverpool & Manchester Railway was made of iron: thirty miles of it, smelted, forged, and wrought in ironworks . . ., and laid down as rails between the two cities that were now producing, in their mundane way, more wealth in a year than the entire Roman Empire could in a century.

(William Rosen, The Most Powerful Idea in the World: A Story of Steam, Industry, and Invention, Random House, 2010, p. 303.)


By the 1820s the choke point was overland transport. The distance between Liverpool's docks and Manchester's factories still had to suffer track cart deliveries at a horse team's pace.

The Rocket, clocked at 35 mph during the competition, would break the horse pace by an order of magnitude. It was the first time fossil fuel powered transport significantly. This event closely corresponds to another interesting factoid, one that until recently, bettered the lives of all of us:

From 1820 to 1970, over every decade, average real wages rose, enabling a rising standard of consumption. These 150 years rooted workers' belief that the US was a "chosen" place where every generation would live better than its parents. (Richard D. Wolff, Capitalism Hits the Fan, Olive Branch Press, 2010, p. 51.)


This increase was due to a large part to the growing reliance society placed on replacing human and animal labor with mechanical. As mechanical labor grew, the time it took to accomplish traditional tasks fell, and made new accomplishments possible. As these tasks reduced our needed minimum of daily labor, hours were freed to pursue different labors, increasing the productivity of people everywhere.

This increased productivity led to increased wealth. An expanding economy, made possible by the shift from strict specie of gold and silver to wealth that recognized only a fraction of the held specie in fractional reserve lending, led to assumptions. Going over the recent history of economies, it seemed that growth could be infinite, since history had since 1820 allowed growth. There was, therefore, no real need to create a stable economy, since downturns were historically short-lived.

This is changing. Evidence of the peak extraction levels for both coal and oil are abundant; I will therefore not bore you with repetition. Knowledge of how this affects our economy, however, is not widespread. First, understand that (for the most part) governments do not print money. Banks do. Commercial banks issue new money whenever they lend, accepting assets as collateral and delivering in exchange credit and a contract to repay that credit. Since only the principal is created at the time of the loan, other loans taken by other people must continue to grow the money supply. If that doesn't happen and the economy stalls, previously good loans turn bad, leading to defaults that continue the process. Our economies are driven by a positive feedback mechanism: when times are good, the money supply grows quickly; when times are bad, it contracts quickly through cascading defaults.

Without access to the cheap energy that literally fuels our economies, though, we hit a stall that promises a fall.

What we need right now is not the next new source of motive fuel (though that would be nice). What we need is to systemically restructure our economies to allow for periods of graceful degradation, where the money supply can be supplemented by entities other than traditional lending institutions, and added in ways that do not exacerbate debt loads. Sadly, this needed overhaul appears daunting not just in scope, but well nigh impossible given the current schisms and struggles in which traditional political institutions find themselves embroiled.

Still, until these needed changes happen, don't expect anything but continuing recessions, as our heads bang again and again on the Gas Ceiling.

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Date: 6/9/11 00:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squidb0i.livejournal.com
So this is more of the ever popular 'fuck you i got mine' philosophy, then.

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Date: 6/9/11 03:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harry-beast.livejournal.com
A better example might be the desire to endlessly raise the debt ceiling and rack up trillions more in debt, something with consequences that are much more immediate.

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Date: 6/9/11 03:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squidb0i.livejournal.com
Funny, we've raised the debt ceiling exactly 75 times including that last one, and up until recently it hasn't been a problem or even newsworthy.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/03/news/economy/debt_ceiling_faqs/index.htm

But keep flogging that strawman.

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Date: 6/9/11 03:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harry-beast.livejournal.com
75 wrongs don't make a right. It still amounts to stiffing the next several generations to pander to the current one.

I guess you don't know what a strawman is.

You guess wrong. As usual.

Date: 6/9/11 15:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squidb0i.livejournal.com
You also assume here that raising the debt ceiling is 'wrong', which claim you never support.

Prove or continue to fail.

I guessed right

Date: 6/9/11 23:12 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harry-beast.livejournal.com
I don't assume any such thing. I state the personal belief that stiffing the next several generations to pander to the current one is wrong.

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Date: 6/9/11 15:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squidb0i.livejournal.com
At this point, the right path is to manage contraction while seeking new sources, IMO.

Fuel and growth

Date: 6/9/11 23:31 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harry-beast.livejournal.com
I have read a few articles about the impact of fuel prices on the economy, and the effect of higher energy prices is probably similar. Without affordable fuel, the economy suffers. There is a tradeoff between using fossil fuels, even if only temporarily until alternative energy sources become more abundant and economical, and environmental concerns.

What to do? Probably proceed with exploration and with infrastructure to supply fuel and energy in the short term to support the economy. An example would be approving the Keystone Pipeline.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/economy-lab/daily-mix/oil-price-spikes-and-recession-intertwined/article1919899/

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Date: 6/9/11 17:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
No, but since you will likely refuse to understand, I'm not going to bother getting into it with you.

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Date: 6/9/11 17:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squidb0i.livejournal.com
You never do. Which is why no one believes you have anything more. Funny how that works.

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Date: 6/9/11 18:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
Of course I do. Just not with you, right now. Because of your intellectual dishonesty, like you just showed with this comment.

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