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“It was almost like listening to an old friend,” said Rep. Bobby Rush (D-Il.)

“In my household I told Castro he is known as the ultimate survivor,” Rush said.

Rep. Laura Richardson (D-Ca.) said Castro was receptive to President Obama’s message of turning the page in American foreign policy. "He listened. He said the exact same thing" about turning the page "as President Obama said," said Richardson. Richardson said Castro knew her name and district. "He looked right into my eyes and he said, 'How can we help? How can we help President Obama?'"

Castro said that the delegation had expressed to him that a segment of American society “continues to be racist,” and is at least partly to blame for the travel restrictions.

SO, why is it Democrats get so googly eyed when they talk with communists? They see them as brothers and victims of the same evil namely the USA. Even the communist party in the USA sound just like the Democrat party. BUT should you point out these things well then your speaking nonsense. So explain to why the Democrats went there and why they were falling all over themselves to praise Castro and his communist government?

Re: Let me help you understand

Date: 14/4/09 14:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com
When you aspire to something and you meeting someone LIVING your DREAM. Wow...it's inspirational. It fills you with hope.



Oh seriously, go to hell. You'll find a few fringe people like Bobby freaking Rush lauding Castro and then you pile on some Hollywood jackasses including GINA LOLLABRIGIDA who was last famous in the fraking 1960s????

Grow up.

Re: Let me help you understand

Date: 14/4/09 14:31 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verytwistedmind.livejournal.com
Grow up? Did you not read the OP or watch the clip? I don't need to grow up, these congresspeople need to think before they speak.

I have no idea who anyone in hollywood is. They are there to entertain me. Frankly, I feel they should know my name. LIke I said I trolled through Google and found names of hollywood people who praised Castro. It was fun and far to easy.

I do know who Dan Rather is though. Cuban Elvis.... I think that statement.

You tell me that my mockery of them is over the top but I argue that their PRAISE is over the top!

The News media's coverage of this man is a mockery of news.

"Considered one of the most charismatic leaders of the 20th century....Castro traveled the country cultivating his image and his revolution delivered. Campaigns stamped out illiteracy and even today, Cuba has one of the lowest infant mortality rates in the world." - Katie Couric NBC’s Today on Feb. 13, 1992:

"a beacon of success for much of Latin America and the Third World. For decades, Cuba’s health care and education systems were touted as great achievements of the revolution....Some say the [U.S.] trade ban has never given Cuba a chance to see whether or not Castro’s socialism might work." -September 4, 1994 CBS Evening News

"No dubious campaign spending here, no mud slinging....[It’s] a system President Castro boasts is the most democratic and cleanest in the world."
- CNN’s Lucia Newman On the January 11, 1998 The World Today

On April 8, 2000, during the custody battle over Elian Gonzalez, Newsweek’s Eleanor Clift claimed on The McLaughlin Group: "To be a poor child in Cuba may in many instances be better than being a poor child in Miami." After immigration agents seized Elian on April 22, 2000, CBS’s Dan Rather assured viewers: "There is no question that Castro feels a very deep and abiding connection to those Cubans who are still in Cuba."

"For Castro, freedom starts with education. And if literacy alone were the yardstick, Cuba would rank as one of the freest nations on Earth," Walters oozed on the October 11, 2002 20/20

There is too much fooder to just keep copying and pasting. Seriously, accept the fact that the media LOVES Castro.


Re: Let me help you understand

Date: 14/4/09 14:40 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com
The "grow up" is fairly simple.

You take a select group of quotes that span DECADES and the in your response talk about DEMOCRATS. Newsflash for you, Sparky: The DemocratIC Party spans 10s of millions of your fellow Americans and 100s of our Congressional Representatives.

And the VAST VAST VAST majority of them recognize Castro as a murderer and a dictator. This ONE change in policy, which isn't even supported by all Democrats, is meant to allow AMERICANS to visit their families and help them.

So FUCK YOU for the comment I quoted above.

As for the entire body of quotes, got news for you: ASSHOLES make selections like those and misrpresent them. Look carefully at the Couric quote -- what else surrounds it? G-d only knows without more investigation, but it happens to be true -- Castro is known for his charisma, his fairly dangerous charisma at that. And it is true that Cuba has low infant mortalty and high literacy. Is she supposed to pepper the TWO SENTENCES with (but he's an asshole) every three words or can copy writers jot off a few facts in the process of getting the record out?

Grow up, asshole.

Re: Let me help you understand

Date: 14/4/09 14:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verytwistedmind.livejournal.com
If the VAST majority of democrats recognize Castro as a murderer and dictator, why do they continue to elect those who do not?

As far as your "make selections like those and misrepresent them", these quotes are not misrepresentation. Look at the positive lexicon used to discribe Castro. Those sort of word choices are not mistakes. Consider the interviews done with Castro and the commentary afterwards. I'm hard pressed to find any solid examples of News personel or Democratic Party Leaders condemming Castro.

Let's address the word charisma. This word is chosen when manipulative and persuasive would have been less endearing words. Do you see how ones choice of words are important. It reflects your feelings and thoughts

Kind of like your “FUCK YOU” comments. It further validates my belief that Democrats are angry people.

Re: Let me help you understand

Date: 14/4/09 14:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com
If the VAST majority of democrats recognize Castro as a murderer and dictator, why do they continue to elect those who do not?

Are you out of your fucking mind?

BOBBY RUSH -- represents ONE district in Chicago. I don't much like the guy but how does his district manage to become all Democrats nation-wide?

Let's address the word charisma.

Yes, let's -- heard the term "charismatic leader"? Think that historians of the Soviet Union when applying it to Stalin want us all to think of him as Cuddly Uncle Joe?

Bull. And if you are half as smart as you've previously seemed before this morning you know it.

I'm angry THIS time because you and kirk crossed a fuking line -- this isn't some nonsense accusation about domestic politics. This is claiming that the DEMOCRATIC PARTY, as a whole, loves a Communist dictator.

FUCK YOU. Seriously.

Re: Let me help you understand

Date: 14/4/09 15:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
So utterly this. They either make something up whole cloth or get something from some fucking MOONBAT like Glenn Beck, and they actually think these ideas are real. It just. Boggles. The. Mind.

Re: Let me help you understand

Date: 14/4/09 16:04 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
Heh, these guys are so marginalized now, I don't care what they do. They're like the new Jimmy Swaggert of the right, just in it for the sheer entertainment value of it (and let's face it, Fox is making a lot of money off it).

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