[identity profile] green-man-2010.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
Pardon me for posting - but this is exciting news !!!

http://www.voanews.com/english/news/africa/US-Allies-Attack-Libya-118304704.html

The airstrikes have gone in against Libya. For once, the UK, USa and the rest of the world seem to be doing the right thing. I was shocked when i heard that cameron had tried to get the SAS involved in Libya. I want to make it clear that I have never liked Gaddaffi , even if I had never posted on that subject until recently in this forum. Iin fact, i don't like the idea of any dictator oppressing their own people and getting backing from the business community to do so.

So, to herar that the Libyan rebels are getting air support and even air strikes against gaddaffian positions is welcome news.

I just hope it isn't too late. governments never do this sort of thing without wantng some kind of pay back. i still hope that there will be free elections in libya, and that this will mean more demands for freedom there and elsewhere and not a rolling back of freedom to secure ' national interests'.

ii don't want gaddaffi replaced by a puppet of UK or US choosing , I want the Libyans to be able to set their own course as a nation . And if that means that we in the west have to lower our dependence on foriegn oil, so be it.

but we must ask ourselves -
what is the UN for?
if we don't want the USA to be the world's policeman , who else is up for the job ?
how can the democratic voters in democratic nations secure the freedoms of everyone - for untill we are all free, no one really is.

I am overjoyed, not in the death and destruction that now rains down upon Gaddaffis henchmen, but the opportunity that this may open up for democracy and freedom in a land that has been denied it for so long. wee are going in on the terms asked, the only terms the libyan opposition wants. I hope that they will have enough space to build their own nation on their own terms as a result.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42164455/ns/world_news-mideast/n_africa/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12776418

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Date: 20/3/11 05:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com
? I'm not following. The 30-day thing is a statute designed to give flexibility in a modern setting. It is an allowance granted by Congress to the Executive. There aren't any constitutional issues.

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Date: 20/3/11 05:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kris-schnee.livejournal.com
There aren't, if you assume that Congress may permanently grant powers that are its responsibility to the President "for urgent use". By the same logic, Congress could also grant an open-ended decree power to the President to pass laws that're said to be too important for a drawn-out debate. We actually already see that a little; eg. the US has been in an official state of national emergency for my entire lifetime according to executive orders such as this one (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2010/11/10/notice-president-continuation-national-emergency-with-respect-iran). I acknowledge that this policy is indeed the one currently in force.

Leaving that aside, we're still probably not going to see an explicit declaration of war even after 30 days. Maybe an "authorization for use of force"?

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Date: 20/3/11 05:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com
Well, I just wait for the issue to actually be ruled as a problem. Until then, it's just the way it is.

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