Rape Logic

[meus-ovatio.livejournal.com]

"Mr. Anderson, you allege that on the night of 14 December 2010, the defendant robbed you on the corner of 24th St. and Broadway Ave. Am I correct in this?"

"Yes. He robbed me. Took my wallet."

"He took your wallet, Mr. Anderson? You mean, surely, that he tore your pants off and physically removed your wallet with his own hands?"

"Well no, it wasn't quite like that..."

"Well what was it like, Mr. Anderson?"

"He told me to give him his wallet and threatened me."

"And did you hand over your wallet, Mr. Anderson?"

"Well... well yes I did."

"So you willingly removed your own wallet and transferred possession of said wallet to the defendant?"

"No, he robbed me! He said he had a gun!"

"Did he, Mr. Anderson? Did he really say that?"

"Yes!"

"My client denies any such thing. What do you have to say?"

"He said he had a gun, and to give him his wallet."

"And did the defendant touch or harm you in any way?"

"Well... no... nothing happened like that... I was afraid!"

"Did you tell him that?"

"What? No! What kind of question is that?"

"So here we are left to believe only your word, Mr. Anderson? Your word that you freely handed over your wallet to the defendant, with no signs of violence, no evidence of any untoward actions, and yet you insist on wasting our time with this?"

"I was robbed!"

"That is precisely the issue under question, Mr. Anderson. Simply repeating yourself doesn't help. Mr. Anderson... were you drinking on the night of 14 December 2010?"

"Well yes... I was coming home from a pub I was at with my friends."

"Really, Mr. Anderson. How much did you drink?"

"Well I don't know really... a few beers, a couple shots... there was a birthday..."

"Ah, so it would be safe to say that you were suffering from, let us say, impaired faculties?"

"I know what happened to me!"

"Do you, Mr. Anderson? I can have an expert testify before the court that even moderate alcohol consumption greatly affects memory."

"This is insane!"

"No, Mr. Anderson, this is Conservative Court."

Comments

[omnot.livejournal.com]

Ah. So imagine that I am larger and stronger than you. If I ask you whether I may use you for my sexual gratification and you say 'no', then it's okay for me to act like I have accepted that when I actually intend to harass you indefinitely? It's okay for me to behave as though I am your friend who has no intention of doing that thing you said you don't want me to do, only to get you drunk, pin you in a corner and ask you again?

And if that doesn't get me what I want, I'll try it again in different circumstances, and if you begin to avoid me, I declare you to be a bad sport with no sense of humour and start to act angry toward you. I tell people that we did it. I tell them that you are a dud root, and they all laugh behind their hands when they see you, maybe calling you "omnot's bitch" behind your back. And thought I resent you now, I still harbour the intention of having my way with you.

Does that sound creepy yet? Would that constitute harassment, or simple boorish behaviour?

How would you feel if there were rumours that I have a supply of roofies and will be attending that party you were planning to go to next weekend?

[gunslnger.livejournal.com]

Would that constitute harassment, or simple boorish behaviour?

The first paragraph is boorish behavior, the second one is harassment.

[rasilio.livejournal.com]

"Ah. So imagine that I am larger and stronger than you"

Irrelivant. If you are using your size and strength advantage to intimidate then it is a threat of violence and therefore rape.


"If I ask you whether I may use you for my sexual gratification and you say 'no', then it's okay for me to act like I have accepted that when I actually intend to harass you indefinitely?"

You can say and intend whatever you like. It is what you actually do that matters and yes if you push it too far yes it becomes sexual harassment which is actually a crime, so feel free to intend anything you want then I'll tell you no a couple more times then push charges.


"It's okay for me to behave as though I am your friend who has no intention of doing that thing you said you don't want me to do, only to get you drunk, pin you in a corner and ask you again?"

If you get me drunk for the purposes of lowering my defenses then that is rape. Again your intentions are irrelevant, it is your actions that matter.

"I want, I'll try it again in different circumstances, and if you begin to avoid me, I declare you to be a bad sport with no sense of humour and start to act angry toward you. I tell people that we did it. I tell them that you are a dud root, and they all laugh behind their hands when they see you, maybe calling you "omnot's bitch" behind your back."

Is it ok, no. But neither is it criminal.

However please feel free to tell everyone we did it, it will make my story that much more believable. What is my story? Oh it goes something like this...

"Yeah we did it, it was frigging horrible. Your dick was so small and limp I couldn't feel a thing and it was really weird how you never really looked at me or talked about my body but were totally focused on your own, like you were more interested in dick. and don't get me started about when you asked me to shove things up your ass while I was blowing you.

I really think you just wanted to sleep with me so you could hide your latent homosexual tendencies"

See 2 can play that game.

That said even here however there are legal recourses if you push things too far. See there is this little thing called slander. I don't need the police to put you in jail, I can sue your parents for everything they own because you "ruined my reputation"


"How would you feel if there were rumours that I have a supply of roofies and will be attending that party you were planning to go to next weekend?"</i. Personally it wouldn't matter to me because I wouldn't have gone to the party anyway but still, your use of roofies to get sex is rape and if I really thought you might have them it wouldn't be hard to call the cops and tip them off to the presence of drugs in your apartment.

[green-man-2010.livejournal.com]

What is my story? Oh it goes something like this...
"Yeah we did it, it was frigging horrible. Your dick was so small and limp I couldn't feel a thing and it was really weird how you never really looked at me or talked about my body but were totally focused on your own, like you were more interested in dick. and don't get me started about when you asked me to shove things up your ass while I was blowing you.

I really think you just wanted to sleep with me so you could hide your latent homosexual tendencies"

Bingo - we have a winner!

The bottom line is, I don't like a self centred jerk who would carry on like that anyway, but taking him to court and giving him a fair trial was what I imagined to be the best way to deal with him.

This solution sounds a lot better, and uses less police time, public money and still gives the bastard everything he deserves.