Are ACORN and Planned Parent hood using the same staffing agency?

[verytwistedmind.livejournal.com]

My questions are:

 1)      Why does this keep happening?

a.       Consider that in 2008 Planned Parenthood had a similar mistake happen.

b.      How many times does it need to happen to be no longer a ‘mistake’ and we question their

2)      I believe that liberalism/progressivism/Democrats are inherently good and caring people. Is it that natural inclination to be caring that is somehow warpped their decision making ability when confronted with this sort of Evil? Are they being dupped into thinking they are ‘helping’ these children/young teenage girls by allowing some man to abuse them?

3)      Can we have this dialog without it going to the abortion issue? I’d like the discussion to be about LiveAction/Planned Parenthood/ACORN and the acceptance of underage sex workers.

A Planned Parenthood manager in New Jersey coaches a man and a woman posing as sex traffickers how to secure secret abortions, STD testing, and contraception for their female underage sex slaves, and make their whole operation “look as legit as possible” in an undercover video released this morning.

Clinic manager Amy Woodruff, LPN, of Planned Parenthood Central New Jersey’s Perth Amboy center, warns the pimp and his prostitute to have their trafficked underage girls lie about their age to avoid mandatory reporting laws, promising, “even if they lie, just say, ‘Oh he's the same age as me, 15,’…it's just that mainly 14 and under we have to, doesn't matter if their partner's the same age, younger, whatever, 14 and under we have to report.” She says, “For the most part, we want as little information as possible.”

 “If they're minors, put down that they're students. Yeah, just kind of play along that they’re students--we want to make it look as legit as possible.”

“This proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Planned Parenthood intentionally breaks state and federal laws and covers up the abuse of the young girls it claims to serve,” said Lila Rose, President of Live Action
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/vid-shows-planned-parenthood-advising-pretend-pimp-about-underage-sex-slaves/ 

Planned Parenthood fired Amy Woodruff the manager. Is that enough? Shouldn't strong policies be put in place so this doesn't happen again?

This isn't Planned Parenthoods first time offense against children

The Mona Lisa Project videos document Planned Parenthood's willingness to repeatedly violate mandatory reporting laws for statutory rape that protect children.
http://liveaction.org/monalisa <-- 2008


http://www.frugal-cafe.com/public_html/frugal-blog/frugal-cafe-blogzone/2009/09/14/acorn-sex-scandal-now-a-triology-okeefe-exposes-again-in-new-york-city-video/  <-ACORN sex scadal.

 The similarity of these scandals bothers me a lot. Where are these liberal groups failing to train their employees/managers!? What policies and procedures are missing that would allow the ACORN manager or the Planned Parenthood manager to think that  discussing child prostitution rings with a man would ever be okay?  I've been in middle management for a long time now and after a few years you just become indoctrinated into the Corporate policy. I find myself towing the line all the time. Why aren't these managers doing the same? I know in my heart of hears that ACORN and Planned Parenthood don’t officially condone this sort of EVIL. Why is Live Action repeatedly able to find those individuals who are in charge (that’s important. They are the leaders not just some flunkies) who’d help out such a sick bastard.

 ACORN’s focus was housing and not nearly as well funded as Planned Parenthood ($374.7 million 2008). They have the revenue to train better. They should not be making this sort of grievous and awful mistake. Especially after 2008. Fool me once shame on you...fool me twice...loss of funding?

Comments

[verytwistedmind.livejournal.com]

1) If PP said that was their policy I would be so heartened and completely discount the Live Action video.
1-a) if this was their policy or plan why did they fire Amy?
2) ACORN was not playing along to the best of my knowledge. Planned Parent hood has a record of helping adult males prey on children. They have this record by not reporting the adult male who is molesting the minor that PP is 'helping'. PP also has been known to circumvent parent notification laws.

I like your spin on the story though. It is far less ugly than PP's desire to protect pimps and child molestors.

[qnetter]

They have this record by not reporting the adult male who is molesting the minor that PP is 'helping'.

Not reporting is not helping. It's not doing anything. I'm sure there are thousands of child molesters I'm not reporting right now. I'm sure I'm not helping them.

PP also has been known to circumvent parent notification laws.

Since parent notification frequently results in less desirable outcomes for youth, I can understand why some PP workers would choose that path.

[verytwistedmind.livejournal.com]

Since parent notification frequently results in less desirable outcomes for youth,

Citation needed on 'frequently' please. Does it happen as often as Planned Parent hood does not report the adult who had sex with minors or does that happen far more often?

[qnetter]

There's a lot of anecdotal evidence for the chilling effect of parental reporting on youth access to services.

[verytwistedmind.livejournal.com]

A health care provider is required to report such abuse. I realize that was unclearn.

[qnetter]

I understand that. I'm not saying their failure to comply is good or legal -- only that I understand why some Planned Parenthood employees would think it was appropriate civil disobedience. And also, that failing to report is not giving aid -- it's failing to give impediment.

[thies.livejournal.com]

ACORN was not playing along to the best of my knowledge

see above, numerous investigations found no criminal conduct. case closed. ACORN was exonerated after being burned at the stake.

Now the same guys are doing the same thing with Planned Parenthood. Occams razor tells me that these videos have no credibility and are just malcious propaganda again.

[mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com]

If PP said that was their policy I would be so heartened and completely discount the Live Action video.

If they openly say it is their policy, it defeats the purpose, since criminals will then immediately know to go elsewhere.

if this was their policy or plan why did they fire Amy?

Because PP are a lot like many other organizations that get bamboozled by this idiocy. See how ACORN was disbanded even though no guilt was found in all the investigations, and how Sherrod was fired.

ACORN was not playing along to the best of my knowledge.

ACORN wasn't supporting a pimp or prostitute, either. ACORN had a college student asking them to help an adult woman get away from her pimp and start her own life. The worst thing ACORN possibly did in the actual videos themselves was tell the woman to pay taxes and not specifically say it was from her history as a prostitute.

They have this record by not reporting the adult male who is molesting the minor that PP is 'helping'.

Except they reported it to the FBI.

edit: I'll also note that you didn't actually answer my questions. You just made two more attacks in the forms of question. I'm sure you'll get right around to responding to what I actually wrote, though.

[usekh.livejournal.com]

ACORN was not playing along to the best of my knowledge

Then you might want to do a little more research. Not to mention the tapes were deceptively edited as well.