Global warming denialists favorite decade? The 70s!

[telemann.livejournal.com]

This is a video clip from "Climate Denial Crock of the Week" puts to rest one of the canards by global warming deniers: that in the 1970s, scientists predicted a global ice age, and the idea of human based climate change due to increased levels of CO2, well that was a relatively recent idea hawked by Al Gore. As you will see, all of this is utter hogwash. Considering that key committees in the House of Representatives will likely be chaired by AGW denialists, the stakes in the misinformation game by the Right couldn't be higher. I think this is a critical step by scientists, and long overdue!

Popular Mechanics - 1953 / Dr. Gilbert Plass of John Hopkins University: article on CO2 causing global temperature increases.


Bell Telephone Science documentary (directed by Frank Capra) showing ramifications of global warming due to human caused CO2 increases.


President Johnson's scientific advisory report warned of significant temperature increases by the year 2000 due to CO2.




Today in an unprecedented move the American Geophysical Union, the country's largest association of climate scientists, "plans to announce that 700 climate scientists have agreed to speak out as experts on questions about global warming and the role of man-made air pollution. The still-evolving efforts reveal a shift among climate scientists, many of whom have traditionally stayed out of politics and avoided the news media. Many now say they are willing to go toe-to-toe with their critics, some of whom gained new power after the Republicans won control of the House in Tuesday's election."


Lord Christopher Monckton of Great Britain, global warming denialist extraordinaire.

John Abraham of St. Thomas University in Minnesota, will be assembling what's called a "fast response" team to rebut denialists. In May of this year, Abraham posted an extensive rebuttal to Lord Monckton's anti-global warming lectures, given around the world (an anti-version of Al Gore, so to speak). Lord Monckton has appeared on Fox News and Glenn Beck's evening show.

Abraham's rebuttal is lucid and compelling and shows in many instances Lord Monckton is outright misrepresenting information on many topics that are favorites to global denialists, including shrinking glacial ice sheets, rising water levels, are polar bear populations decreasing, the Medieval Warming period, Co2 levels, is Solar variance to blame for recent warming etc.

Comments

[htpcl.livejournal.com]

I hope that 2008 survey of 71 periodic studies included some of the most mainstream renown science outlets. ;-)

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

Like any of this would matter to the Creationists. AGW are most of them Creationists, and they consider actual science a big conspiracy hiding that the Ark is on Mount Ararat and every culture except whites is a degenerated descendant of the original Adamic pair. And of course T. rex ate coconuts and 2 of every kind of sauropod and Indricotherium were both on the Ark without either breaking it with their sheer weight and making it one of the most uncomfortable feed houses in the history of the human race.

[mrbogey.livejournal.com]

In summation: "It's okay when we cherry pick"

That's nice, dear.

[telemann.livejournal.com]

Your skid-marks are showing, dear. Here - have a Depends.

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

Go ahead then, pick your own cherries. I'm all ears starving.

[chron-job.livejournal.com]

Please be specific. What detail do you feel is being cherry picked? Support for the idea that there was no global cooling consensus in the 70's?

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

Be careful, want me to bring up all the Rightie-Tighties who bought every bit of Moscow's propaganda as opposed to what was actually going on in the USSR? And all the ones that considered the Apartheid regime God's gift to South Africa?

Or is that also a case of "It's only a bad thing when you guys do it?".

[sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com]

This is satire right?

Right?

[telemann.livejournal.com]

Eh?

[devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com]

ALERT BOB JONES UNIVERSITY! Bring on the 20 'scientists' who can refute this!

Been here

[reality-hammer.livejournal.com]

Debunked this before.

http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/global%20cooling.htm

http://www.john-daly.com/schneidr.htm

http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/cooling1.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttLBqB0qDko (warning: autoplay)

http://www.masterresource.org/2009/09/the-global-cooling-scare-revisited/ (which also references the flip-flop from the 1950s)

http://www.stopglobalcoolingnow.com/?p=499 (references the 1970s ice age scare)

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,944914,00.html

etc.

Less than a second on Google.

Now that the Republicans are back in charge of the House we can stop the lies and move toward real science.

Re: Been here

[dwer.livejournal.com]

Now that the Republicans are back in charge of the House we can stop the lies and move toward real science.

Yes, like Intelligent Design!

Re: Been here

[telemann.livejournal.com]

What is "it" that has been debunked?

Re: Been here

[kinvore.livejournal.com]

I suggest you check out this site:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

It's kinda nifty, it addresses every denier myth and destroys them with facts.

Re: Been here

[chron-job.livejournal.com]

Your included pictures don't debunk the embedded video at ALL! Did you watch it?

Oh well

[geezer-also.livejournal.com]

You pick your religion and I'll pick mine ;)

Re: Oh well

[telemann.livejournal.com]

Science and fact over what, exactly?

[malasadas.livejournal.com]

A cursory scan suggests you could add Daniel Patrick Moynihan's memo to President Nixon on global warming in the future decades. It's exerpted in an issue of NY Mag this summer.

[johnny9fingers.livejournal.com]

I don't know Monckton but what I've read of him makes me think he's a bit of an ass, and with a specific and well-funded axe to grind. I can't say whether he's delusional or just fibbing-for-money, but it does seem that he'll swear black is white and up is down in pursuit of his position: a technique also known as 'the ends justify the means', and an accusation usually thrown about by the climate-change-deniers to any of the vast majority of climate scientists who argue against such heterodoxical denialist positions .

Selective omission, cherry-picking facts, and blatant lying, exist, it appears, more on the denialist side of the debate, but even given that, Monckton's example does appear to be more than ordinarily egregious.

[drcruel.livejournal.com]

The overwhelming consensus of scientists say, "Clearly, we are having an effect on our environment and while we may not know the exact extent of it, very bad things are already happening as a result of this effect and they are getting worse." Righties pretend a few Greenpeace activists are playing chicken little, and get on with their complaining that we want more recycling and more green energy.

[rasilio.livejournal.com]

"Clearly, we are having an effect on our environment and while we may not know the exact extent of it,"

This is correct

" very bad things are already happening as a result of this effect and they are getting worse"

If they are really saying this then they are very poor scientists as "Bad" and "Worse" are entirely subjective

[rasilio.livejournal.com]

Are they going to put together a similar fast response team to rebut the ridiculous scare stories about life as we know it ending within the century too?

[debergerac.livejournal.com]

scare stories? didn't you see the day after tomorrow?

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