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talkpoliticsAs we're now stepping into the 3rd quarter of the year, we're bringing the new Daily Quotes list over here (continued).
There are no certain requirements for finding yourself in it. Whenever someone makes a spontaneous remark that inspires others to either have a laugh or go into deep contemplation, chances are that it'll get in here, and will be also featured on the community sidebar. ;)
The Dailyquote list for the 3rd quarter of 2010 starts behind the cut (with links)...
100
"The longer I observe the so-called revolution against the mainstream media on either the right or the left the more I wish I had a larger disposable income that I could invest in the only obvious growth sector in American manufacturing -- clown cars."
(malasadas)
"Middle-class and lower-class people do not support the economy. They are the leeches of the economy."
(exiledv2)
"It's a disturbing tendency that whichever empire has ventured into Afghanistan hasn't lasted very long thereafter. Just a coincidence, I'm sure."
(htpcl)
"Would anyone in a position of power ever be a truther?"
(l555l)
"No way. Power and truth are like oil and water."
(ddstory)
"I live in a straw hut. But you already know that."
(mahnmut)
"Yes, you have been beguiled by the luxurious and soft comforts of straw."
(meus_ovatio)
"That's why I'm an expert at strawmen."
(Mmahnmut)
"Bisexualism is hot, period. Well, so is homosexualism and heterosexualism, but then, I'm a sex maniac, so..."
(ddstory)
"The "yeah but America" approach. In fact, that seems to be everyone's approach. It isn't that America is a world leader in anything, it's that we're everyone's excuse."
(meus_ovatio)
"Being a leader means you stick up too high, and the winds are strong up there."
(mahnmut)
"Long hair, sandals, bathing in a creek, living off his buddies, crashing weddings, raging against The Man...dude was a hippie, deal with it."
(rogerdr)
"In DCistan, is old saying: the enemy of my enemy is a good customer."
(dukexmachismo)
90
"I don't know who the bigger nerd is: you for this reference, or me for understanding it."
(soliloquy76)
"I think I just had a minor history orgasm. Gimme more STAHL-in and a little bit of HIT-ler!"
(mahnmut)
"Wow, I read 3.14 generalizations over a span of 15 minutes."
(htpcl)
"Don't you know? After the Sermon on the Mount he went on for another hour about galactic expansion and stellar formation. Best part of the Bible, in my opinion."
(op_tech_glitch)
"Of course the earth is the center of the universe. Well, wherever I am, to be exact. I don't need no Bronze Age hippies or Catholic acid-freaks to tell me that."
(rogerdr)
"Who is stuck in the 10th century? We must find them and ask them about their time travel capabilities."
(mybodymycoffin)
"Without war there would be fewer happy millionaires making charitable gifts to survivors."
(woopflying)
"Anything can be justified if you work at it. Conversely, everything has blood on it."
(caerfrli)
"I love this post. This post gives me hope for the future generation of posts. I want this post to find a nice post with good prospects, settle down and start having baby posts."
(malasadas)
"The way testosterone activates my androgen receptors is allegorical. Does that get me off the hook?"
(socialdarwinism)
80
"Fire ants are such a buzzkill."
(fizzyland)
"Your post was so enlightening to us laymen that I needed sunglasses while I was reading it."
(mahnmut)
" Reality has a bias towards itself."
(jerseycajun)
"Sometimes it takes an a-hole to stir up the waters and make an issue really discussed."
(luvdovz)
"If I had a choice between two clones, one atheist and one Christian, I would pick the Christian. If they aren't clones, then there are other factors involved."
(gunslnger)
"UGH! I don't get to own the space at/near/two blocks from where my parents died. Neither does anyone else."
(enders_shadow)
"Gotta love TP. We keep it class in this motherfucker."
(kinvore)
"Personally I like the sound of my fart. But I try not to do it too loudly even in private. Talk about PC."
(htpcl)
"Naw, the revolution is over. The upper 1% took over without firing a shot."
(ygrii_blop)
"Nobody likes it when their phallic symbol gets infringed upon."
(meus_ovatio)
70
"A stimulus is smart short term, stupid long term. Not doing shit is stupid short term, smart long term. Politician jobs are on 2 or 4 year cycles. They need your vote to stay in power. Which strategy do you think they'll lean toward?"
(oportet)
"I'm waiting for a WikiLeaks style site just to uncover what WikiLeaks does."
(404)
"When blog postings are cited as proof, one should probably give up."
(l555l)
"The Republican Party wants a government small enough to fit in people's bedrooms and uteri."
(underlankers)
"I'm a lesbian in a man's body, but about 51% of the population doesn't believe it."
(rogerdr)
"Under GWB the USA was one step away from fascism, of which the only cure was electing Obama. Now Obama's President and.....we're still evidently one step from fascism. "
(underlankers)
"All politics is local."
(underlankers)
"Depends on which distance scale you've tuned your eyesight."
(ddstory)
"It's not difficult to "appear" literate and informed."
(htpcl)
"All you need is a blackboard and your own TV show."
(devil_ad_vocate)
"Dude, there's nothing wrong with being a Muslim. Unless you're Obama."
(debergerac)
"Breasts are what made America America. Love it or leave it."
(pastorlenny)
60
"I think you have a problem with your brain being missing."
(enders_shadow)
"I know exactly where it is. I keep the jar sealed in order to protect it from infrared radiation."
(mylaptopisevil)
"How much a society is worth is measured not by the way it treats its Have-most-s, but by the way it treats its Have-not-s."
(airiefairie)
"If I took things that showed up in my email as credible national trends I would be buying gold and waiting for the erectile dysfunction apocalypse."
(futurebird)
"The duration of a drama episode is proportional to the size of the egos involved."
(mahnmut)
"People who are clue-proof can only be condescended to and encouraged to smoke cigarettes."
(omnot)
"Gerald Ford."
(mijopo)
"How could someone name themselves after a car?"
(htpcl)
"There is a finite sum of smart in the world. Smart is a limited resource. Main reason why you probably haven't gotten smarter, lately."
(lafinjack)
"From those for whom respect is an empty gesture, disrespect is meaningless."
(mendaciloquent)
"There is a limited supply of fascination in the world. So by being fascinated, you are causing someone else to be bored."
(pasotlenny)
"It's easy to fight for "the people" because you can kill any person that gets in your way."
(mrbogey)
50
"Government should stay out of foreign people's lives. Oh wait..."
(ddstory)
"The entire world should just apologize to each other so we can go back to killing each other with a clean conscience."
(kinvore)
"The internet allows us all to become the monsters we've always wanted to be in our real lives, and yet cannot due to...reality. Which is why so many men pretend to be girls in MMO's..."
(l555l)
"There are no real girls on the internet. Girl just stands for Guy In Real Life."
(chemchick)
"Yes, people talking about racism too much is a good excuse to accept racism where it indeed exists."
(pastorlenny)
"We all know Christians are peaceful people. They wouldn't harm a fly. (unless the fly performed abortions or was gay)".
(enders_shadow)
"For mad scientists who keep brains in jars, here's a tip: why not add a slice of lemon to each jar, for freshness?"
(telemann)
"You know my situation but I still pay for Dr Pepper. I don't care if it's taxed. I need my fucking sugar or I'm a bitch."
(soundquakes)
"The discrimination against gay marriage is the male version of a woman being banned from walking down the street topless."
(anadinboy)
"Careful! Putting the word Amtrak so close to the phrase "make money" might cause one of those mini-black holes."
(surfetelf)
"Our church has a secret bouncer.. shes about seventy five, four foot nine.. but shes strong."
(magdalene74)
40
"They must fight in the pit for their citizenship! By fire they be judged worthy of the blood of the ancestors yargh!"
(the_rukh)
"The surest proof that there are no gods is that none of them have showed up to bitchslap the idiots who speak in their names."
(drcruel)
"America won't be destroyed; it will be evicted."
(ghostwes)
"We are conquering evolution. Besides this, we are cockroaches, only smarter. As long as there is a way out of the heat, we will never die."
(rogerdr)
"Capitalism is fuck you Jack I'm alright."
(woopflying)
"There'll always be someone in the place of 'American'. No-one's irreplaceable."
(mahnmut)
"An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth leaves the whole world toothless and blind."
(dwer)
"Just pretend that I inserted a witty macro here, because really, it's not worth the fucking trouble."
(dwer)
"Any god smart enough to be god would be smart enough to remain apolitical."
(debergerac)
"You know things are bad when even the Jews want to vote for a ham sandwich! Hell, I'll vote for a ham and cheese sandwich on Russian rye!"
(hannahsarah)
30
"Watching tv kills brain cells anyway. That's why I'm so smart."
(htpcl)
"I get to do whatever I want as long as I don't piss you off enough to kill me, and you get to do whatever you want as long as you don't get in my way."
(rogerdr)
"What's a "Kosovo"?"
(root_fu)
"It's the cousin of Macedonia."
(reality_hammer)
"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."
(fizzyland)
"I think the blogosphere is too amped up with its own circus and commits an attribution error whereby "society" is somehow the source of their heated, over-wrought and overly-active conditions."
(meus_ovatio)
"You have no excuse for failing as a white guy, you really have to work at it."
(eracerhead)
"Money is the ultimate form of racism."
(l555l)
"I don't care much about gun control. It's the crowd control that matters."
(meus_ovatio)
"It's easier to paint signs than it is to teach Brits how to drive on the right side of the road..."
(debergerac)
"Talk_politics will sell you a Cliff Notes version of this post for 6.95 not including 5.00 postage and handling. Please see me in the lobby if you want to reserve your copy now."
(telemann)
20
"I think denying Alinsky three times before the cock crows is Alinsky tactic number 8.. or 9."
(cgallivan)
"You have to admit, predicting the end of the world is one of those fields where you really only have to be right ONCE."
(box_in_the_box)
"Everyone needs idols to build their society around. Idolized idols, that is. Otherwise the world stops turning and the Greys come through that dimension portal under your bed and steal your socks."
(mahnmut)
"Blue-jay feathers aren't actually blue. Their internal structure refracts light, kind of like how the atmosphere does it, so that it only looks blue. Whether or not pigment is required for true blueness is largely left up to the philosophers."
(meus_ovatio)
"So rejoice thee, and be thankful to the great hidden lord in the sky for sending you the lesser Antichrist for his amusement."
(mahnmut)
"Funny thing - Woody Allen recently asked everyone to forgive Polanski and move on. In other news, Franco recently asked everyone to forgive Mussolini and move on."
(readherring)
"Big question: Has humanity ever NOT had a large/vast group of cookie cutter X types who avoid thinking for themselves?"
(l555l)
"The 30 years war started and ended before you were born, but that wouldn't stop you from trying to inject that into a conversation."
(404)
"Who gives a goddamn fuck what an immoral wannabe gangster thinks? Seriously, go talk to Lucifer. Oh wait, you'll have that chance eventually anyway, won't you?"
(meus_ovatio)
"If I never wanted sex again, I'd be the most contented man alive. If not the happiest."
(prader)
10
"What's your point?"
(enders_shadow)
"It's rather a wave function."
(ddstory)
"Surfs up?"
""Spreads evenly into a sea of possibilities."
"The Uebermensch strikes again! Someone is going to have a feeled day [sic] with homo erectus."
(sophia_sadek)
"I love guns. That doesn't mean I believe folks should have them."
(usekh)
"As your resident Bloody Pinko Commie (TM), I've no problem with people waving their metaphorical iron dick prosthesis at me unless they show a desire to shoot their ammo onto me (pun intended). Then make law hit'em with all its weight."
(mahnmut)
"It is always curious to hear what profound thoughts the people who have never waded in a puddle of water might have to share about swimming."
(airiefairie)
"It is good to poop periodically. Its the largest religion in the world."
(jk_fabiani)
"Serial monogamy is a form of polyamory."
(eracerhead)
"Hey mister, we don't have "ministries" here in the US of A. Them's fer socialist countries."
(meus_ovatio)
"Well my problem is I ain't got no guns, so I can only cling to my religin."
(geezer_also)
"I have ended my life in Switzerland more than once. It is a much better place to do such things than the UK anyway."
(pastorlenny)
There are no certain requirements for finding yourself in it. Whenever someone makes a spontaneous remark that inspires others to either have a laugh or go into deep contemplation, chances are that it'll get in here, and will be also featured on the community sidebar. ;)
The Dailyquote list for the 3rd quarter of 2010 starts behind the cut (with links)...
100
"The longer I observe the so-called revolution against the mainstream media on either the right or the left the more I wish I had a larger disposable income that I could invest in the only obvious growth sector in American manufacturing -- clown cars."
(malasadas)
"Middle-class and lower-class people do not support the economy. They are the leeches of the economy."
(exiledv2)
"It's a disturbing tendency that whichever empire has ventured into Afghanistan hasn't lasted very long thereafter. Just a coincidence, I'm sure."
(htpcl)
"Would anyone in a position of power ever be a truther?"
(l555l)
"No way. Power and truth are like oil and water."
(ddstory)
"I live in a straw hut. But you already know that."
(mahnmut)
"Yes, you have been beguiled by the luxurious and soft comforts of straw."
(meus_ovatio)
"That's why I'm an expert at strawmen."
(Mmahnmut)
"Bisexualism is hot, period. Well, so is homosexualism and heterosexualism, but then, I'm a sex maniac, so..."
(ddstory)
"The "yeah but America" approach. In fact, that seems to be everyone's approach. It isn't that America is a world leader in anything, it's that we're everyone's excuse."
(meus_ovatio)
"Being a leader means you stick up too high, and the winds are strong up there."
(mahnmut)
"Long hair, sandals, bathing in a creek, living off his buddies, crashing weddings, raging against The Man...dude was a hippie, deal with it."
(rogerdr)
"In DCistan, is old saying: the enemy of my enemy is a good customer."
(dukexmachismo)
90
"I don't know who the bigger nerd is: you for this reference, or me for understanding it."
(soliloquy76)
"I think I just had a minor history orgasm. Gimme more STAHL-in and a little bit of HIT-ler!"
(mahnmut)
"Wow, I read 3.14 generalizations over a span of 15 minutes."
(htpcl)
"Don't you know? After the Sermon on the Mount he went on for another hour about galactic expansion and stellar formation. Best part of the Bible, in my opinion."
(op_tech_glitch)
"Of course the earth is the center of the universe. Well, wherever I am, to be exact. I don't need no Bronze Age hippies or Catholic acid-freaks to tell me that."
(rogerdr)
"Who is stuck in the 10th century? We must find them and ask them about their time travel capabilities."
(mybodymycoffin)
"Without war there would be fewer happy millionaires making charitable gifts to survivors."
(woopflying)
"Anything can be justified if you work at it. Conversely, everything has blood on it."
(caerfrli)
"I love this post. This post gives me hope for the future generation of posts. I want this post to find a nice post with good prospects, settle down and start having baby posts."
(malasadas)
"The way testosterone activates my androgen receptors is allegorical. Does that get me off the hook?"
(socialdarwinism)
80
"Fire ants are such a buzzkill."
(fizzyland)
"Your post was so enlightening to us laymen that I needed sunglasses while I was reading it."
(mahnmut)
" Reality has a bias towards itself."
(jerseycajun)
"Sometimes it takes an a-hole to stir up the waters and make an issue really discussed."
(luvdovz)
"If I had a choice between two clones, one atheist and one Christian, I would pick the Christian. If they aren't clones, then there are other factors involved."
(gunslnger)
"UGH! I don't get to own the space at/near/two blocks from where my parents died. Neither does anyone else."
(enders_shadow)
"Gotta love TP. We keep it class in this motherfucker."
(kinvore)
"Personally I like the sound of my fart. But I try not to do it too loudly even in private. Talk about PC."
(htpcl)
"Naw, the revolution is over. The upper 1% took over without firing a shot."
(ygrii_blop)
"Nobody likes it when their phallic symbol gets infringed upon."
(meus_ovatio)
70
"A stimulus is smart short term, stupid long term. Not doing shit is stupid short term, smart long term. Politician jobs are on 2 or 4 year cycles. They need your vote to stay in power. Which strategy do you think they'll lean toward?"
(oportet)
"I'm waiting for a WikiLeaks style site just to uncover what WikiLeaks does."
(404)
"When blog postings are cited as proof, one should probably give up."
(l555l)
"The Republican Party wants a government small enough to fit in people's bedrooms and uteri."
(underlankers)
"I'm a lesbian in a man's body, but about 51% of the population doesn't believe it."
(rogerdr)
"Under GWB the USA was one step away from fascism, of which the only cure was electing Obama. Now Obama's President and.....we're still evidently one step from fascism. "
(underlankers)
"All politics is local."
(underlankers)
"Depends on which distance scale you've tuned your eyesight."
(ddstory)
"It's not difficult to "appear" literate and informed."
(htpcl)
"All you need is a blackboard and your own TV show."
(devil_ad_vocate)
"Dude, there's nothing wrong with being a Muslim. Unless you're Obama."
(debergerac)
"Breasts are what made America America. Love it or leave it."
(pastorlenny)
60
"I think you have a problem with your brain being missing."
(enders_shadow)
"I know exactly where it is. I keep the jar sealed in order to protect it from infrared radiation."
(mylaptopisevil)
"How much a society is worth is measured not by the way it treats its Have-most-s, but by the way it treats its Have-not-s."
(airiefairie)
"If I took things that showed up in my email as credible national trends I would be buying gold and waiting for the erectile dysfunction apocalypse."
(futurebird)
"The duration of a drama episode is proportional to the size of the egos involved."
(mahnmut)
"People who are clue-proof can only be condescended to and encouraged to smoke cigarettes."
(omnot)
"Gerald Ford."
(mijopo)
"How could someone name themselves after a car?"
(htpcl)
"There is a finite sum of smart in the world. Smart is a limited resource. Main reason why you probably haven't gotten smarter, lately."
(lafinjack)
"From those for whom respect is an empty gesture, disrespect is meaningless."
(mendaciloquent)
"There is a limited supply of fascination in the world. So by being fascinated, you are causing someone else to be bored."
(pasotlenny)
"It's easy to fight for "the people" because you can kill any person that gets in your way."
(mrbogey)
50
"Government should stay out of foreign people's lives. Oh wait..."
(ddstory)
"The entire world should just apologize to each other so we can go back to killing each other with a clean conscience."
(kinvore)
"The internet allows us all to become the monsters we've always wanted to be in our real lives, and yet cannot due to...reality. Which is why so many men pretend to be girls in MMO's..."
(l555l)
"There are no real girls on the internet. Girl just stands for Guy In Real Life."
(chemchick)
"Yes, people talking about racism too much is a good excuse to accept racism where it indeed exists."
(pastorlenny)
"We all know Christians are peaceful people. They wouldn't harm a fly. (unless the fly performed abortions or was gay)".
(enders_shadow)
"For mad scientists who keep brains in jars, here's a tip: why not add a slice of lemon to each jar, for freshness?"
(telemann)
"You know my situation but I still pay for Dr Pepper. I don't care if it's taxed. I need my fucking sugar or I'm a bitch."
(soundquakes)
"The discrimination against gay marriage is the male version of a woman being banned from walking down the street topless."
(anadinboy)
"Careful! Putting the word Amtrak so close to the phrase "make money" might cause one of those mini-black holes."
(surfetelf)
"Our church has a secret bouncer.. shes about seventy five, four foot nine.. but shes strong."
(magdalene74)
40
"They must fight in the pit for their citizenship! By fire they be judged worthy of the blood of the ancestors yargh!"
(the_rukh)
"The surest proof that there are no gods is that none of them have showed up to bitchslap the idiots who speak in their names."
(drcruel)
"America won't be destroyed; it will be evicted."
(ghostwes)
"We are conquering evolution. Besides this, we are cockroaches, only smarter. As long as there is a way out of the heat, we will never die."
(rogerdr)
"Capitalism is fuck you Jack I'm alright."
(woopflying)
"There'll always be someone in the place of 'American'. No-one's irreplaceable."
(mahnmut)
"An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth leaves the whole world toothless and blind."
(dwer)
"Just pretend that I inserted a witty macro here, because really, it's not worth the fucking trouble."
(dwer)
"Any god smart enough to be god would be smart enough to remain apolitical."
(debergerac)
"You know things are bad when even the Jews want to vote for a ham sandwich! Hell, I'll vote for a ham and cheese sandwich on Russian rye!"
(hannahsarah)
30
"Watching tv kills brain cells anyway. That's why I'm so smart."
(htpcl)
"I get to do whatever I want as long as I don't piss you off enough to kill me, and you get to do whatever you want as long as you don't get in my way."
(rogerdr)
"What's a "Kosovo"?"
(root_fu)
"It's the cousin of Macedonia."
(reality_hammer)
"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."
(fizzyland)
"I think the blogosphere is too amped up with its own circus and commits an attribution error whereby "society" is somehow the source of their heated, over-wrought and overly-active conditions."
(meus_ovatio)
"You have no excuse for failing as a white guy, you really have to work at it."
(eracerhead)
"Money is the ultimate form of racism."
(l555l)
"I don't care much about gun control. It's the crowd control that matters."
(meus_ovatio)
"It's easier to paint signs than it is to teach Brits how to drive on the right side of the road..."
(debergerac)
"Talk_politics will sell you a Cliff Notes version of this post for 6.95 not including 5.00 postage and handling. Please see me in the lobby if you want to reserve your copy now."
(telemann)
20
"I think denying Alinsky three times before the cock crows is Alinsky tactic number 8.. or 9."
(cgallivan)
"You have to admit, predicting the end of the world is one of those fields where you really only have to be right ONCE."
(box_in_the_box)
"Everyone needs idols to build their society around. Idolized idols, that is. Otherwise the world stops turning and the Greys come through that dimension portal under your bed and steal your socks."
(mahnmut)
"Blue-jay feathers aren't actually blue. Their internal structure refracts light, kind of like how the atmosphere does it, so that it only looks blue. Whether or not pigment is required for true blueness is largely left up to the philosophers."
(meus_ovatio)
"So rejoice thee, and be thankful to the great hidden lord in the sky for sending you the lesser Antichrist for his amusement."
(mahnmut)
"Funny thing - Woody Allen recently asked everyone to forgive Polanski and move on. In other news, Franco recently asked everyone to forgive Mussolini and move on."
(readherring)
"Big question: Has humanity ever NOT had a large/vast group of cookie cutter X types who avoid thinking for themselves?"
(l555l)
"The 30 years war started and ended before you were born, but that wouldn't stop you from trying to inject that into a conversation."
(404)
"Who gives a goddamn fuck what an immoral wannabe gangster thinks? Seriously, go talk to Lucifer. Oh wait, you'll have that chance eventually anyway, won't you?"
(meus_ovatio)
"If I never wanted sex again, I'd be the most contented man alive. If not the happiest."
(prader)
10
"What's your point?"
(enders_shadow)
"It's rather a wave function."
(ddstory)
"Surfs up?"
""Spreads evenly into a sea of possibilities."
"The Uebermensch strikes again! Someone is going to have a feeled day [sic] with homo erectus."
(sophia_sadek)
"I love guns. That doesn't mean I believe folks should have them."
(usekh)
"As your resident Bloody Pinko Commie (TM), I've no problem with people waving their metaphorical iron dick prosthesis at me unless they show a desire to shoot their ammo onto me (pun intended). Then make law hit'em with all its weight."
(mahnmut)
"It is always curious to hear what profound thoughts the people who have never waded in a puddle of water might have to share about swimming."
(airiefairie)
"It is good to poop periodically. Its the largest religion in the world."
(jk_fabiani)
"Serial monogamy is a form of polyamory."
(eracerhead)
"Hey mister, we don't have "ministries" here in the US of A. Them's fer socialist countries."
(meus_ovatio)
"Well my problem is I ain't got no guns, so I can only cling to my religin."
(geezer_also)
"I have ended my life in Switzerland more than once. It is a much better place to do such things than the UK anyway."
(pastorlenny)
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Date: 2/7/10 07:42 (UTC)Actually the old list had to be filled with 100 DQs first, before starting this one.
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Date: 2/7/10 16:25 (UTC)Happy Fiscal New Year!
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