![[identity profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/openid.png){kind=small}
green-man-2010.livejournal.com posting in ![[community profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/community.png){kind=small}
talkpoliticsLife after the oil crash.
Ok, last time, I went and pinned it on a vid that most people cannot read at work.
So I am letting y'all boot up something you can read quitely when you oght to be working :)
http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/
In case you have trouble reading graphs, this one has a Blue Peter style 'talk you through the implications' - complete with original sources, for those who wanna check.
It might seem like I am doom mongering , but I just want to say -
Let's put more into Planned Parenthood, make it optional, but make it a damned sight easier at home and abroad.
Let's have oil rationing, sooner rather than later. Let's also have everything rationed if it's made with oil.
let's try to be civilised about the few resources left and share them out among ourselves.
Let's start reducing consumption , reusing things and recycling more.
let's remember that civilisation as we know it will be over by 2050, if it lasts that long.
Ok, last time, I went and pinned it on a vid that most people cannot read at work.
So I am letting y'all boot up something you can read quitely when you oght to be working :)
http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/
In case you have trouble reading graphs, this one has a Blue Peter style 'talk you through the implications' - complete with original sources, for those who wanna check.
It might seem like I am doom mongering , but I just want to say -
Let's put more into Planned Parenthood, make it optional, but make it a damned sight easier at home and abroad.
Let's have oil rationing, sooner rather than later. Let's also have everything rationed if it's made with oil.
let's try to be civilised about the few resources left and share them out among ourselves.
Let's start reducing consumption , reusing things and recycling more.
let's remember that civilisation as we know it will be over by 2050, if it lasts that long.
(no subject)
Date: 30/5/10 20:59 (UTC)First the most obvious interim solution has been around for more than 40 years and has been proven far more safe and environmentally sound than Coal or Oil ever tried to pretend to be and yet the Greens oppose it at every turn.
Second there are a half a dozen technologies we have known exactly how to implement since the 60's but could not make them cost competitive with cheap oil, an equation which has been changing somewhat with advances in technology and will change further with more expensive oil.
My personal favorites are Ocean Geothermal and Solar Power Satelites.
Neither of these use new technologies and we have known how to do them for decades in both cases, what has held them back was engineering experience and cost.
The point is there are no "Starship" technologies that need to be developed and the lead time to develop and deploy the technologies at the scale needed is only on the order of 1 - 2 decades at most
(no subject)
Date: 30/5/10 21:16 (UTC)i mean , we probably could go and terraform mars before 50 years are up, but that isn't gonna save planet earth.
Ocean Geothermal and SPS are both viable systems - but the ability to deliver the gigawattage needed to replace Oil and coal? I am not sure.
sure, cheap oil has been holding back R&D, and we can expect that to stop.
however, we use gigawatts, and need to scale back. Even in europe, never mind the USA.