[identity profile] green-man-2010.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
Life after the oil crash.
Ok, last time, I went and pinned it on a vid that most people cannot read at work.
So I am letting y'all boot up something you can read quitely when you oght to be working :)

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

In case you have trouble reading graphs, this one has a Blue Peter style 'talk you through the implications' - complete with original sources, for those who wanna check.

It might seem like I am doom mongering , but I just want to say -
Let's put more into Planned Parenthood, make it optional, but make it a damned sight easier at home and abroad.

Let's have oil rationing, sooner rather than later. Let's also have everything rationed if it's made with oil.

let's try to be civilised about the few resources left and share them out among ourselves.

Let's start reducing consumption , reusing things and recycling more.

let's remember that civilisation as we know it will be over by 2050, if it lasts that long.

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Date: 30/5/10 07:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
The sun's not big enough for you?

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Date: 30/5/10 19:03 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
It's bigger than we need. We only use a small fraction of it. Even counting oil storage, it's only a small fraction.

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Date: 30/5/10 12:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eracerhead.livejournal.com
No. The energy isn't exploitable enough to supply everyone on earth with the level of consumption in the US, no less account for the increase in population by the time we build the infrastructure.

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Date: 30/5/10 19:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
By the time we would need to supply everyone on earth with that level, it will be.

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Date: 30/5/10 12:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eracerhead.livejournal.com
No. The energy isn't exploitable enough to supply everyone on earth with the level of consumption in the US, no less account for the increase in population by the time we build the infrastructure to do so.

The US currently generating capacity is 15.8TW. of that, 14TW are generated by fossil fuels. Add about 1TW each for nuclear and hydro and it is obvious that the amount generated by solar/wind/geothermal is trivial (about 160GW). We would have to increase this capacity roughly 100X just to fill the gap left by fossil fuels. Now take that and multiply it by the rest of the population consuming like the US and it just isn't possible to do so. None of this accounts for population growth which will likely double by the time we build the infrastructure.

It is absolutely clear that the west and in particular the US needs to cut back on consumption. How we do that will depend upon who is leading the charge and today that is the left. If you do not want leftist solutions, then you'd better get on board and come up with better ideas.

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