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[oportet.livejournal.com]

I'm not a liberal, but if I was, I can't imagine what I would have against the Tea Party movement - so hopefully a liberal/democrat could help me out with this.

I understand the movement is made up mostly of conservatives, so wouldn't that either be a good, or at worst, neutral thing for you when elections come around?

Sure, the Tea Party isn't an official party with representatives, but when a big (or the big) election comes around, they'll most likely endorse someone (If they don't, that would fall under neutral). If the person/people they back are Republican, you saw it coming, and you'll pretty much have the same outcome there would have been if the TP never existed (again, neutral result). If the person/people they back aren't Republican, it wouldn't be taking many, if any, votes away from your side - nowhere near the number it would be taking away from Republicans (this would fall under good for you).

Or am I missing something?

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[debergerac.livejournal.com]

say what? thirteen percent dems is negligible? why that's the percentage of blacks in the united states. do you consider them negligible too?

[chessdev.livejournal.com]

Stop with the strawmanning and bait... it's cheap.

Considering the poll was a telephone survey given by a conservative group already we have potential bias in leading questions.

Then from THAT we still have 2 points unaccounted for in the survey (57+28+13 = 98) which means anyone of the numbers probably has at least a +/- 2 percent margin; which is pretty high considering how small those numbers are for the "Democrat" listed.

Finally, 13% really IS a small number until you can show me these are people who claim membership rather than sympathize on 1 or 2 issues -- which a phone survey doesnt make clear.

[debergerac.livejournal.com]

so a poll is inaccurate but a collection of internet links, articles and signs from the usual liberal sources is the troof?

you don't present a very convincing argument. perhaps you can show me some more palatable polls that confirm your charges of wide-scale racism, bigotry and gun waving among the secessionist tea partiers.

or was that paft's view? i can't keep you two straight at times.

[chessdev.livejournal.com]

The links led to stories that were shown to be true.
But apparently it's much easier for you to attack the source of the links, than to argue wheether they were right (which they were).

And phone surveys are not particularly convincing in any direction -- use an actual survey that people fill out.


So come on -- you're dancing around but not actually discussing whether the information is correct. THAT is what I've been waiting to see you do and which you keep dancing away from.

[debergerac.livejournal.com]

there were 800+ tea parties, yet the handful of "truthful" articles from the usual sources and a million comments in blogs just like this are used to paint an entire movement. it's akin to calling people racist because theuy oppose obama. well that's is on one the prime tactics used against the tea party, i will agree.

however, you still aren't convincing.

but convince me. where is your accurate poll?

[gunslnger.livejournal.com]

There was a guest commentator on the Joy Behar show the other day who said that he had gotten on a bus to go to a Tea Party event and that the only white guy on the bus was the driver (although this guy was Italian, so I guess he wasn't counting himself) and at the event he saw a couple oddball people and noticed that the cameras hung around them and didn't point at any of the non-white people there. And Joy's response was "but they're all so racist".

[debergerac.livejournal.com]

joy speaks with authority. she's on tv after all.