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[oportet.livejournal.com]

I'm not a liberal, but if I was, I can't imagine what I would have against the Tea Party movement - so hopefully a liberal/democrat could help me out with this.

I understand the movement is made up mostly of conservatives, so wouldn't that either be a good, or at worst, neutral thing for you when elections come around?

Sure, the Tea Party isn't an official party with representatives, but when a big (or the big) election comes around, they'll most likely endorse someone (If they don't, that would fall under neutral). If the person/people they back are Republican, you saw it coming, and you'll pretty much have the same outcome there would have been if the TP never existed (again, neutral result). If the person/people they back aren't Republican, it wouldn't be taking many, if any, votes away from your side - nowhere near the number it would be taking away from Republicans (this would fall under good for you).

Or am I missing something?

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[oportet.livejournal.com]

This goes back to my original point.

You don't differentiate much between TPers and Republicans. Neither does readherring. Neither do I. Hell, the TPers have pretty much given up on trying to.

They aren't going to gain numbers on you with this movement, they'll stay the same or fall behind more.

[chessdev.livejournal.com]

So because I disagree with both groups does not mean they are the same;
Nor does it mean I should cheer one and fight the other.

If I disagree with both of them, then I disagree with BOTH.

Now, the Republicans have done a ***piss poor*** job of moving away from the hateful or racist elements of the TP who claim they are Republican and/or Conservative.

But that doesn't mean I'm going to play "numbers game" and advocate the TP in hopes of weakening the GOP. I dont agree with either, and frankly BOTH are not what I would encourage.

So there's your answer. Not particularly difficult.

[readherring.livejournal.com]

I can't really call them Republicans, because I don't know what "Republican" means these days.

I think of TPers that started out as conservatives angry (and rightfully so) over the bailouts and the fiscal irresponsibility of both parties, and (less rightfully so) over the outcome of the emotionally charged presidential election. This rage was channeled by Republicans and Fox News to also hate and reject indiscriminately whatever healthcare plan congress could come up with. Many of their actual platform points aren't that bad, but some of them are untenable and just a bit spiteful.

The Republicans are now working like hell to take them into their fold, and Fox News keeps filling 'em with tripe. I'm probably more frustrated with them than hateful. They started as being people angry with some legitimate problems, and now they are becoming part of those problems.