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talkpoliticsOk dudes, sorry to post on the wrong topic last time - so here's myr take on the international situation for International Week.
A lot of Brits are up in arms about immigration. i was on the doorstep this morning, canvassing for the Greens when a man points out to me that 5 houses in his street were sold recently - and only one went to an English family. he said it like this was some sort of problem, and confirmed it with a rant about foreigners.
Now, it caused a stir in the 50s when we suddenly have a boatload of Afro Carribean people turn up in England on the boat The Windrush .
These men were invited over by the government - basically to do the jobs the white people did not want. we also got lots of nurses coming over from abroad. this meant that the countries they came from were suddenly short of nurses, but what the hell - we were brits and we could pay them more than their own country.
But what really kicked things off was the expulsoin of many middle class Asians ( Indians and pakistanis ) from Uganda. As they were Commonwealth citizens, the Uk too them in. And then we had the Somalis...
So now, we have had wave after wave of refugees settling in the UK. In some areas, the local white population is outnumbered, but immigration of this nature is mainly in the cities. go to the smaller towns and the rural areas of the Uk , and the population is mainly white, but in some areas, racial tension is high because he white people resent being in a minority on the streets and in the schools.
But why do people come to the UK anyway? The fact that we run a Welfare state is only part of the answer. look at what goes on in Somalia, and you see a complete breakdown in law and order. make no mistake, civil war, poverrty and extreme conditions lead many to flee their country of origin and settle elsewhere.
If you open the kitchen door and find the sink overflowing, there is no point grabbing a mop, or trying to bail out with a bucket. it makes more sense to turn off the tap first of all. Rather than invest in Border police and vote for tougher legislation on immigration, the Greens argue that the causes of ecological and economic disasters abroad should be addressed as a matter of urgency.
Britain , like many countires, sells arms abroad. In fact it is a principle export. rather than making the world a safer place, it fills the world with refugees fleeing the conflicts that rage in their native lands. Our rampant consumerism is also pushing poorer nations deeper into poverty.
Sweat shop labour in the far east means that tee shirts are cheap on the UK high street, but that poor people get little reward for their hard work in their own country. this also spurs many to smuggle themselves into the UK.
So, Greens say that international treaties that protect workers rights and limit the deadly arms trade are the only effective ways to limit the supply of illegal immigrants. The Berlin Wall did not keep people fleeing to the west, and the Border Police will not keep out the refugees who continue to flee the developing world and the problems they face there.
On the other hand, if we fix those problems, in the long term , this will mean fewer illegal immigrants. So, we advocate -
Support for democratic movements and Trade Union rights for workers in places where they have not got them.
A limiit on arms exports
A change in the way that muultinationals are allowed to operate in developing nations, and trade rules that alllow local economies to grow instead of being exploited.
Implementing the Tobin Tax - preventing greedy speculators from exploiting weaker currencies.
The better we can make life for people in Somalia and places like it, the less we will be concerned with migrants sneaking through our borders, the less we will hear of piracy off the coast of West Africa, and the less we will see of racial tension in our societies.
A lot of Brits are up in arms about immigration. i was on the doorstep this morning, canvassing for the Greens when a man points out to me that 5 houses in his street were sold recently - and only one went to an English family. he said it like this was some sort of problem, and confirmed it with a rant about foreigners.
Now, it caused a stir in the 50s when we suddenly have a boatload of Afro Carribean people turn up in England on the boat The Windrush .
These men were invited over by the government - basically to do the jobs the white people did not want. we also got lots of nurses coming over from abroad. this meant that the countries they came from were suddenly short of nurses, but what the hell - we were brits and we could pay them more than their own country.
But what really kicked things off was the expulsoin of many middle class Asians ( Indians and pakistanis ) from Uganda. As they were Commonwealth citizens, the Uk too them in. And then we had the Somalis...
So now, we have had wave after wave of refugees settling in the UK. In some areas, the local white population is outnumbered, but immigration of this nature is mainly in the cities. go to the smaller towns and the rural areas of the Uk , and the population is mainly white, but in some areas, racial tension is high because he white people resent being in a minority on the streets and in the schools.
But why do people come to the UK anyway? The fact that we run a Welfare state is only part of the answer. look at what goes on in Somalia, and you see a complete breakdown in law and order. make no mistake, civil war, poverrty and extreme conditions lead many to flee their country of origin and settle elsewhere.
If you open the kitchen door and find the sink overflowing, there is no point grabbing a mop, or trying to bail out with a bucket. it makes more sense to turn off the tap first of all. Rather than invest in Border police and vote for tougher legislation on immigration, the Greens argue that the causes of ecological and economic disasters abroad should be addressed as a matter of urgency.
Britain , like many countires, sells arms abroad. In fact it is a principle export. rather than making the world a safer place, it fills the world with refugees fleeing the conflicts that rage in their native lands. Our rampant consumerism is also pushing poorer nations deeper into poverty.
Sweat shop labour in the far east means that tee shirts are cheap on the UK high street, but that poor people get little reward for their hard work in their own country. this also spurs many to smuggle themselves into the UK.
So, Greens say that international treaties that protect workers rights and limit the deadly arms trade are the only effective ways to limit the supply of illegal immigrants. The Berlin Wall did not keep people fleeing to the west, and the Border Police will not keep out the refugees who continue to flee the developing world and the problems they face there.
On the other hand, if we fix those problems, in the long term , this will mean fewer illegal immigrants. So, we advocate -
Support for democratic movements and Trade Union rights for workers in places where they have not got them.
A limiit on arms exports
A change in the way that muultinationals are allowed to operate in developing nations, and trade rules that alllow local economies to grow instead of being exploited.
Implementing the Tobin Tax - preventing greedy speculators from exploiting weaker currencies.
The better we can make life for people in Somalia and places like it, the less we will be concerned with migrants sneaking through our borders, the less we will hear of piracy off the coast of West Africa, and the less we will see of racial tension in our societies.
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Date: 21/4/10 22:29 (UTC)No, stuff like landmines, cluster bombs, 'stun sticks' that are handy in quelling demonstrators and are useful torture devices in prisons. that kind of thing.
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Date: 21/4/10 22:38 (UTC)If you want to stop innocents from dying due to the international arms trade. Go after the guys supplying the stuff that kills mainly civilians. Go after China and Russia.
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Date: 21/4/10 22:46 (UTC)Agreed, the AK 47 is ubiquitous, I know. But we as Brits are in no position to hold the high moral ground while we ourselves are also a major arms exporter.
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Date: 22/4/10 00:07 (UTC)English arms trafficking isn't the major source of international strife. That's why I highlighted the AK-47.
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Date: 22/4/10 01:13 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 22/4/10 01:21 (UTC)British landmines aren't the source of strife in third world conflict. They're cheap improvised explosives or black-market arms made by vendors in other third world countries.
Your snark in this case just makes you look stupid and demeans you.
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Date: 22/4/10 06:40 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 22/4/10 12:05 (UTC)