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talkpoliticsWow. Pope Benedict's personal preacher Raniero Cantalamessa created a firestorm by comparing the scrutiny and pressure the Catholic Church has been experiencing lately in their molestation scandals to the "more shameful aspects of anti-Semitism."
This just further illustrates why the Roman Catholic Church will never take real steps to stop abuse. They aren't concerned with the children that are getting raped, they're only concerned with their own reputation. They see themselves as being wrongfully attacked, and never does it enter their minds that their actions (and lack thereof) contributed to what they are enduring now.
I hope the pressure never lets up but sooner or later the mainstream media will give up on it, only to flare up again down the road after more children have been raped, and the cycle will repeat again.
Pope Benedict, the only way this is going to end is if you take real steps towards stopping abuse. First of all stop protecting priests who molest children and treat it like the horrific sin (and crime) that it is. Throw them out of the Church and/or turn them in to law enforcement.
To help prevent this from happening as much you're going to have to allow priests to marry. Stop making excuses, stop covering up, and make a real effort to end this abuse.
This just further illustrates why the Roman Catholic Church will never take real steps to stop abuse. They aren't concerned with the children that are getting raped, they're only concerned with their own reputation. They see themselves as being wrongfully attacked, and never does it enter their minds that their actions (and lack thereof) contributed to what they are enduring now.
I hope the pressure never lets up but sooner or later the mainstream media will give up on it, only to flare up again down the road after more children have been raped, and the cycle will repeat again.
Pope Benedict, the only way this is going to end is if you take real steps towards stopping abuse. First of all stop protecting priests who molest children and treat it like the horrific sin (and crime) that it is. Throw them out of the Church and/or turn them in to law enforcement.
To help prevent this from happening as much you're going to have to allow priests to marry. Stop making excuses, stop covering up, and make a real effort to end this abuse.
Re: You don't care about the fact that Raniero Cantalamessa is trivializing the Holocaust
Date: 4/4/10 02:46 (UTC)Second, the man who "pushed back racial barriers" started out on vaudville playing up the steretypes -- but I'm sure you knew that.
The icon you showed is a portrayal of those stereotypes as well -- but of course a dipshit like you would miss a key word: Connotation.
The connotation in that icon is racist and offensive, regardless of whether it was *less* than the standards of the day.
Finally, for someone who argues they aren't racist -- you sure seem eager to throw out icon and words to garner reaction. But the mere effort negates any naivety you claim.
So basically: Suck it. Stop being an offensive prick and the problems go away.
Re: You don't care about the fact that Raniero Cantalamessa is trivializing the Holocaust
Date: 4/4/10 03:07 (UTC)Nice try, chessy. I've only used the Bert Williams icon twice on all of LJ. I know it was you who sent a message to the mods...whose activities and viewing habits you suddenly seem to know quite a bit about. Don't like the mods called on you? Fine. Stop doing it yourself.
Yes, I knew that. And black performers using blackface also used such performances to subtly satirize white behavior...but I'm sure you knew that also. From wikipedia:
"Black performers used blackface performance to satirize white behavior. It was also a forum for the sexual double-entendre gags that were frowned upon by white moralists. There was often a subtle message behind the outrageous vaudeville routines:
The laughter that cascaded out of the seats was directed parenthetically toward those in America who allowed themselves to imagine that such 'nigger' showtime was in any way respective of the way we live or thought about ourselves in the real world."
scource (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackface#Black_Minstrel_Shows)
In essence, they were IRL trolling whites...who weren't in on the joke. It's actually quite funny imo.
And you seem awfully damn eager to jump at shadows and start e-fights with anybody who doesn't share your subjective and uptight viewpoints, Marshall Dillon. No matter the stated context.
Pffft. Cut the internet vigilante crap, trollboy. LJ doesn't need your protection(as if you actually care what people say on the internet). We'll just let the mods settle this. Even if it means we both get banned.
Re: You don't care about the fact that Raniero Cantalamessa is trivializing the Holocaust
Date: 4/4/10 03:12 (UTC)If you feel you must -- go ahead and call them. The difference between us is I'm not trying to offend people. And if there was nothing to my claim, why did the mod contact you then?
And black performers using blackface
Enough said. Dont even pretend your icon was intended for anything but what it was -- blackface. It was meant to illicit a reaction along racial lines.
Period
The rest of your crap is bullshit justificaiton and it makes you seem even more pathetic -- which is amazing considering how low you were flying before.
Anyway -- as I said before: Quit being an offensive prick and the problems stop. And honestly -- I dont expect *me* to get banned for YOU posting racist icons. And since a mod has contacted *you* on the topic -- I suspect YOU would do well to stop the crap.
Toodles.
Re: You don't care about the fact that Raniero Cantalamessa is trivializing the Holocaust
Date: 4/4/10 03:27 (UTC)And neither am I. Just because you're an overly sensitive little man who kicks and screams everytime you see something that you subjectively construe as offensive, doesn't mean people are trying to provoke you.
Yeah, said reaction being, "Who is that?" so I could say who it was. Apparently you're too humorless to laugh at the subtle satire against white society that Bert and others were performing. I think it was genius. Seriously...you need to lighten up and become at least a tiny bit more laid back.
No, they wouldn't ban you for me posting icons. However, they might ban you for playing internet vigilante and stirring up shit that wasn't there. And yes, I was contacted. Just as you were contacted when I complained. Mods do that, ya know. They talk toat them.
By the way, why did you tell that mod that some of my icons were Nazi icons when I've never had a Nazi icon to begin with? Oh, yeah! I forgot! You're here confusing me with
That's how I figured out it was you who sent the mod a PM. lol pwnt.
Re: You don't care about the fact that Raniero Cantalamessa is trivializing the Holocaust
Date: 4/4/10 05:00 (UTC)And to even try to argue that an icon of blackface is a joke on white people??
Give. Me. A. Break. Again, nothing humorless in that and pretending there is subtlety in such an icon is ridiculous.
Oh an calling out a moron on racism isn't "overly sensitive". Because you dont seem to care if you offend people doesn't mean noone else should care.
Honestly you bring down the quality of the forum -- by your presence and your actions.
Just because you feel "entitled" to flaunt hateful words and icons doesn't mean the rest of us have to sit there and take it. Just because noone else has bothered to call you on your shit doesn't mean they weren't offended -- they just figured you were too stupid to understand. And they were right.
Re: You don't care about the fact that Raniero Cantalamessa is trivializing the Holocaust
Date: 4/4/10 05:43 (UTC)Uh-huh. Sure, pal. The mod messages me and mentions a Nazi icon...even though I've never had a Nazi icon. and here you are confusing me with a guy who does. No, it couldn't be you.
Seriously dude, telling me that I'm wack for calling a mod and then doing it yourself? What a bitch move.
Ummm...yeah. Because Bert and others like him were mocking whites to their faces and said whites didn't even know it. Pretty damn funny if you ask me. Are you denying that they weren't doing this?
Here's the thing. I don't care if people get offended by trivial and subjective shit. If I did, I'd never post again because there will always be the risk of running overly sensitive types with sacred cows and witch hunt mentalities. Sort of like I'm dealing with now lol.
I lol'd at the hypocrisy. Let the mods worry about forum quality, nana. Want to worry about the quality of a forum? Fine. Best way to do that is to make a super-sanitized forum of your own...which will quickly become dead due to having a petty ban-happy tyrant at the helm. Seriously, feel free to even pre-ban me from it. Not like I'd ever join such a boring place to begin with.
My nickname "Niggerbot" isn't hateful, trollboy. Now if I called someone else "Niggerbot"? Then you'd have a better case. In the past, I've also referred to myself as a "fishbelly" in this very community. Are you also going to scream "omg hateful!" for using a racist slur against whites on myself too? As for the icon, I've already explained the context and you keep trying to wiggle around that. Trufax: Context matters in communication.
Conversely, it also doesn't mean they care either. But with me using my "Niggerbot 9001" nickname for months in front of several thousand people in the communities I regularly post in, I'm sure I'd have heard from more than just two people if many cared. Which is unlikely they would because...newsflash...most of the internet doesn't care about such trivial things. They've seen far worse, i.e. Power Five, Last Measure, 2girls1cup, etc.
Oh, there you go again with your psychic powers again, Miss Cleo. Do something more productive with them like giving me those lottery numbers.
Oh shit! I just mentioned a black woman who happens to be a con-artist!
Re: You don't care about the fact that Raniero Cantalamessa is trivializing the Holocaust
Date: 4/4/10 14:47 (UTC)* You wander in with offensive title
* You refuse to change
* You then involve the mods
* You then escalate to racist icons
* I point out your icons but dont ask anything be done
Most of the escalation has been on your part -- but somehow *I* the bitch?
Right....
and the rest of your unaware privileged trolling is disingenuous in the extreme and not even worth refuting -- anyone with any sense sees the problem with it.
Anyway, I'm not going to keep engaging you: Your understanding is not required, merely not bringing down the forum with blatantly racist offensive terms and images.
As I said before: I dont nee to talk TO you, I'm quite free to talk ABOUT you if you do something blatantly racist (with the icons were).
Toodles...
Re: You don't care about the fact that Raniero Cantalamessa is trivializing the Holocaust
Date: 4/4/10 22:51 (UTC)And you ignore the context.
I don't change to conform to your subjective standards for the same reason that humans don't conform to meet the subjective standards of chimps or crustaceans.
And you bitch at me for involving them...to your face...then sneak off to complain to them behind my back. Protip: At least when I call a mod, I don't call one that's on my f-list.
Riiiight. Because a black comedian who subtly satirizes the gullible fishbellies of his day is racist imagery. /sarcasm
True. Instead of asking anything, you issue ultimatums and cowardly cry to mods behind my back after chiding me for doing so openly.
And your understanding isn't required either. Merely not bringing down the forum with your subjective standards and witch hunt mentality.
And I'm also free to do openly what you've been doing in the shadows, i.e. contacting the mods. Don't like me contacting them? Fine. Make up your mind whether or not you want e-jihad or whether you want the mods. Constantly moving the goal post is another bitch move.
Anyway, talking aBOUT me involves me in the conversation. What do you want me to do next time you do that? Mods or e-jihad, bitch boy? Choose one or the other. I'm going to stand in the way of you choosing both lol.
Yeah, right. Times cheesy has "left" the conversation only to involve me in it anyway: 2