[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100313/ap_on_re_us/us_lesbian_sergeant_discharged

Evidently while the rule is "Don't Ask Don't Tell" this is one case among many where the Right Wing honors rules in the breach as opposed to the observance. It's perfectly kosher for the police to blab about somebody's record and ensure she's fired when she abided by military segregation. Because expecting those who bray loudest like the jackasses they are to believe in enforcing rules when *they* have to abide by them is a lost cause. What has happened to this woman, who abided by military rules and regulations is both shameful, will be upheld as many other shameful incidents have been, and I expect this post will receive an abundance of comments defending the indefensible when GLBTQ are victims.

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Date: 16/3/10 02:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
It's important that our military continue to play Pretendsies, because it makes repressed conservatives in the govt. uncomfortable to have other people come out of the closets they're still in. Or something.

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Date: 16/3/10 02:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lordtwinkie.livejournal.com
those cops should be arrested.

Imagine...

Date: 16/3/10 23:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
... what would happen to them in prison. One attempt to retrieve the soap and it's all over.

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Date: 16/3/10 04:36 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
I'm not quite sure who you're angry at here, you seem to be shooting all over the place.

I hope she wins her suit against the police.

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Date: 16/3/10 11:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dukexmachismo.livejournal.com
Anger is its won reward.

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Date: 16/3/10 12:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 3fgburner.livejournal.com
Frankly, I hope that all of the officials involved wind up living under bridges, because she'll own their homes.

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Date: 16/3/10 05:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrsilence.livejournal.com
Honestly, while I regret what has happened to this woman's career, I'm also glad that the police chose to do what they did.

Because the more idiotic examples there are of the enforcement of this rule there are in the media, the more public pressure grows for change and the sooner the legislation is revoked.

Well let's get this thing rolling.

Date: 16/3/10 05:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com
It is particularly shameful since the military is supposed to close ranks against the local po-po like the hick podunk fucks they are.

Re: Well let's get this thing rolling.

Date: 16/3/10 12:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 3fgburner.livejournal.com
Are you saying "hick podunk fucks" = Soldiers, or "hick podunk fucks" = po-po?

Re: Well let's get this thing rolling.

Date: 16/3/10 13:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
I read him as saying the latter--but I could be wrong. I doubt it tho, since iirc, Meus was a soldier, so I'd expect him to be jabbing at the 5-O

Re: Well let's get this thing rolling.

Date: 16/3/10 13:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 3fgburner.livejournal.com
Cool. The phrasing and context are a bit ambiguous, I figured I'd ask before going off

Re: Well let's get this thing rolling.

Date: 16/3/10 18:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com
My platoon has a long and gloried history of obstructing local police investigations. It's a sacred game.

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Date: 16/3/10 13:40 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
It[DADT] defies common sense--but then again, it's because of religion. So big fucking shock there....

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Date: 16/3/10 16:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
Kind of lost in the kerfluffle is that apparently she seemed to be adding and abetting a possible felon who has skipped bail, or am I missing something, like with Rodney King?

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Date: 16/3/10 20:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
Yes, but that's really a separate issue from being kicked out of the military because someone revealed she's gay. If they had kicked her out because of the aiding and abetting then I don't think there'd be an issue.

And besides, someone should go to court and get judged guilty before any of these punishments are applied.

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Date: 16/3/10 23:36 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
What I was so poorly implying is that it seems so weird for the police to willy-nilly out someone, that perhaps there is more to the story.

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Date: 17/3/10 00:31 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
It doesn't seem weird to me. When they're dealing with someone they think is a criminal or helping a criminal, they will do almost anything to retaliate when they get frustrated. (The "almost anything" varies by the individual, but at a macro level it's generally true.)

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Date: 17/3/10 16:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eracerhead.livejournal.com
[Police officers, who said they spotted the marriage license on the kitchen table through a window of Newsome's home, alerted the base]

And most of us were born yesterday. Here's a different scenario: They searched the house with a warrant for her partner, not finding her they came across the marriage license and used it to coerce information from a party unrelated to the warrant. When that didn't work they did the next best thing, tip off her employer. See what happens when you don't cooperate with us bitch?

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