Unnecessary shutdowns

[gunslnger.livejournal.com]

The federal government is shutting down a lot of things that are either don't need to be shut down (because they cost no money to operate) or actually cost more to shut down than they do to keep operating. These include both national parks and government agency websites.

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/10/84362-13-national-parks-impacted-government-shutdown/
http://reason.com/blog/2013/10/02/government-will-shut-down-websites-even

We're at the point where the government is just being petty and working on zooming well past that point.

For those who think it's justified because the Republicans won't budge on Obamacare, that just doesn't fit the facts.



As a libertarian, I'm fine with permanently cutting 800,000 federal workers and I think it's nice that they've identified the agencies we can do without, but I'd rather it happen with at least the standard 2-week warning for people. Pretty much all politicians in office right now are acting like children, but that's what happens when the electorate is also.

Comments

[geezer-also.livejournal.com]

So, no facts?

What I find interesting is that most disagreements using facts and reason against libertarians on this forum come from other libertarians or conservatives. With few exceptions it seems people on the left are too busy trying to be clever, snarky, or disdainful. Just an observation.

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

That could be because you may be choosing to listen to what libertarians and fellow conservatives have to say, and take it seriously - by default; while any counter-argument that's being presented to you by non-conservatives, you'd be prone to approaching with the premise that it's designed to somehow slight you.

That is a syndrome but I can't put my finger at it yet so I don't know what its exact denomination is. So let's just call it "the syndrome".

[geezer-also.livejournal.com]

Meh, I don't feel slighted at all. I even commented where an actual counter argument was made further down.

Perhaps I have some kind of "syndrome" but I kinda miss real discussion as opposed to everything boiling down to OMG you want us all to be illiterate, or you want to "pave paradise and put up a parking lot".

What's weird is I can't believe I miss all those "wall of text" discussions from a couple of years ago (which is as far as I've gotten up til now in rereading the forum)

Oh well, I'm certainly not blameless, and we have been thru periods like this before; but this is a good forum, and we will survive :D

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

I don't feel slighted at all

Not exactly the impression you've left in me, no.

I kinda miss real discussion

Me too. There's been way too much talking about the way people talk lately, as opposed to actually, well, talking.

The most amusing thing is that there've been lamentations of the "where oh where is this place going to", virtually from day one of its inception. And that was quite a few years back. Well, turns out the place hasn't "gone" anywhere yet.

[notmrgarrison.livejournal.com]

With few exceptions it seems people on the left are too busy trying to be clever, snarky, or disdainful.

Yeah. Except you left out "label people as trolls".