You had one f-ing job.....

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

Uh, red team, wtf? You've allowed these tea party freaks drive to the car into a ditch. That's the plan?

“We’re very excited,” said Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.). “It’s exactly what we wanted, and we got it.”

Well, yay for hurting people IRL?

TIM MURPHY: Well, the short answer is about 20 percent of the federal government, 800,000 federal workers, will show up to work today and be sent home, and that includes 400,000 civilian workers from the Department of the Defense. That’s the department that probably gets the most cuts from this. The longer answer is, you know, pretty much various things that you use in your everyday life will no longer be open to you. People applying for mortgages will have trouble getting that from the federal government. People trying to fill out their taxes will no longer be able to call the IRS to ask basic questions. The Coast Guard is cutting back some of its navigation assistance. Auto—new automobile inspections will be curtailed. The EPA is closing 94 percent of its responsibilities for the foreseeable future. You know, there’s kind of this perception that the shutdown mostly just affects Washington, D.C., and it really does affect Washington, D.C., but it goes much broader than that.

Yay, shut down the EPA, bring back acid rain!!!. NRC has slashed planned nuke plant inspections! NOAA is slashing. EPA is really fucked. NASA Voyager, fucked. Mars Rover is fucked Kids being kicked out of cancer treatments:

"At the National Institutes of Health, nearly three-quarters of the staff was furloughed. One result: director Francis Collins said about 200 patients who otherwise would be admitted to the NIH Clinical Center into clinical trials each week will be turned away. This includes about 30 children, most of them cancer patients, he said."

Awwww hell yeah! Who needs to regulate pesticides, amirite? No more monitoring beef for ecoli, meat eaters. The CDC wont be able to monitor outbreaks or even create a proper flu vaccine - you could have millions of deaths on your hands. Way to stick it to those sciences, red team! Yee haw for hee haw! Gun sale permits are also going to be hampered, opps!!!! Families of American soldiers slain in Afghanistan will be denied death benefits. You shut down the panda cam too dammit:

the deal with the shutdown is it essentially gets worse the longer it goes on. And in 1995 and 1996 it went on for 28 days and ended up costing the U.S., I think, about $2 billion in economic losses, just because people don’t have money and they’re not spending it. So you have the 800,000 workers who will be furloughed, and they’ll be furloughed without pay. And when the shutdown eventually ends, they’ll get that pay. But in the meantime, you know, they’re trying to make ends meet. The government did pass an emergency measure to continue paying members of the armed services last night, so they’ll still work and they’ll still get their pay. But families whose, you know, loved ones die in Afghanistan will not get death benefits in that period. You know, civilian contractors will not, by and large, be showing up to work. The EPA will shut down almost all of its services. The National Zoo will close. Even the panda cam that lets you watch, you know, the pandas on a live stream 24 hours a day will shut down. NASA, I think, is furloughing about 97 percent of its staff. You know, people who depend on the federal government for funding for WIC food assistance will not get that. It’s up to their state whether they’ll get that going forward. Some states have obligations to do that; some states could probably care less. Heating assistance as the weather gets colder is something that is now up in the air. You know, there’s just kind of this wide range of government programs. Head Start, which is a program that has already been kind of really hammered by the sequestration cuts over the last seven months, is going to get further cuts over the next couple of weeks if the shutdown persists, as grants are now put on hold. So, you know, whether you have kids, whether you’re a college student relying on federal student loans or Pell Grants, whether you’re a senior citizen, whether you’re living in a cold region without heat, this shutdown will affect you.

All these self inflicted wounds because they hate a bill that was passed by congress, signed by a president who basically was elected on the issue, and ruled constitutional by the Supreme court. The bastard child of the Heritage foundation, RomneyObamacare aka the Affordable Care Act. Gawd forbid birth control be covered.



This woman is far more eloquent than I could be on the issue, so here:

I have a pre-existing condition and I stand to lower my premium, my deductible, and my prescription costs. I promise to return the money I save to the economy quite promptly, I'm good at that part. Just lower your gun and stop hurting people. Pretty please?

To quote Lincoln: "What is our present condition? We have just carried an election on principles fairly stated to the people. Now we are told in advance, the government shall be broken up, unless we surrender to those we have beaten, before we take the offices. In this they are either attempting to play upon us, or they are in dead earnest. Either way, if we surrender, it is the end of us, and of the government. They will repeat the experiment upon us ad libitum."

Comments

[notmrgarrison.livejournal.com]

The fact that the house refused to fund things like the Parks and cancer treatment is 100% the fault of democrats.

[enders-shadow.livejournal.com]

It is the democrats fault that the republicans refuse to pass a clean CR bill?

Excuse me, let me amend that:

Is it the democrats fault that John Boehner will not allow a vote to come to the floor of the house on a clean CR bill?

There are enough members of the house who WOULD VOTE FOR SUCH A BILL

But John Boehner is denying them that liberty. Why does John Boehner hate freedom?

[cheezyfish.livejournal.com]

Is it the democrats fault that John Boehner will not allow a vote to come to the floor of the house on a clean CR bill?

Boehner and 220+ Republican House members. The speaker alone cannot stop a bill from a vote.

[telemann.livejournal.com]

The speaker alone cannot stop a bill from a vote.

Sure he can. Wikipedia states: "... the Speaker may use his or her power to determine when each bill reaches the floor." And the current House rules also state this.

[cheezyfish.livejournal.com]

What does Wikipedia state about Discharge Petitions?

[telemann.livejournal.com]

They're successful on an exceptionally rare basis. Out of thousands of laws passed by Congress since the early 20th century, the House voted for discharge 26 times and passed 19 of the measures, but only two have become law.

With those odds, Rush Limbaugh has a better chance of playing golf with President Obama.

[cheezyfish.livejournal.com]

There is a reason it is exceptionally rare and that's because Speakers don't normally go against the wishes of 90% of their parties members (the claim made here). It is a great way to no longer be speaker. Likewise, a small vocal minority who may want to join with Dems won't do it because it pisses off the party leadership, so it has to be for something worth it.

[enders-shadow.livejournal.com]

This cry-baby throws a temper tantrum then yells about the milk he spilled, and how come mommy and daddy aren't cleaning up all this spilled milk?!

[fizzyland.livejournal.com]

The fact that the house refused to fund things like the Parks and cancer treatment is 100% the fault of democrats.

Comedy gold.

[telemann.livejournal.com]

Oh lol 4 ever.

[the-rukh.livejournal.com]

[ddstory.livejournal.com]

Nice parallel reality you've created there.

Is this proneness to reject reality and substitute it with their own an inherent trait of conservatives, or it's just that they have a very wild imagination?

[cheezyfish.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure why its a parallel reality. You do realize that the Republicans tried to get small spending bills through, with no attachments to the ACA, to fund those things? Obama threatened a veto and Dems voted against them.

[ddstory.livejournal.com]

So the Dems actually wanted to overfund those things?

[cheezyfish.livejournal.com]

What? No, Dems want to be able to blame Republicans for not funding them via the shutdown, so they are blocking Republicans stopgap spending bills from actually funding them, bills that would provide separate funding for the NIH, NPS, and D.C. without funding the rest of the government. It sounds a bit silly, but these threads are a perfect example to show that it would be effective.

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

Why not demand red team pass a clean bill? See that quote from lincoln in OP?

The lesson I am learning is that three years ago when the ACA was being hashed out, the concessions made then were worthless.

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

The final CR on Sept 30:

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-113hjres59eah2/pdf/BILLS-113hjres59eah2.pdf

Looks like the ACA was a big part of it.

Your congressperson should stop doing that.

[cheezyfish.livejournal.com]

You aren't linking to the right thing. I'm not talking about the CR, I'm talking about the small stopgap bills that would have funded the VA, NPS and DC. These bills weren't introduced until after the shutdown.

[rimpala.livejournal.com]

again, "YOU MADE ME DO THIS!!!" - John Boehner

[cheezyfish.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure how John Boehner has anything to do with this. He allowed a vote to fund the NPS, D.C. and the VA with no attachments to the ACA, and Obama said he would veto. If anything, Obama is saying "YOU MADE ME DO THIS."

[rimpala.livejournal.com]

Obama didn't shut down the government, it wasn't even his job to handle the budget. It was congress's job! Blame Obama simply does not work here.

[notmrgarrison.livejournal.com]

He has said he would veto small bills that would do things like open the parks. The president isn't a bystander here.

And it is comedy gold watching so many of you in complete denial of what the democrats are doing.

[rimpala.livejournal.com]

Why can't the Republicans just pass a spending bill? Why is it insisting on keeping the shutdown active?

[cheezyfish.livejournal.com]

First off, yes, it is the Presidents job to construct a budget. Like literally, the first step in the process is the President constructs a budget to be approved by congress. Obama has failed to get his budgets passed 4 out of 5 times, and that is even with having congress fully being controlled by Democrats,. He is the only President ever to fail to do so two years in a row (he hasn't done it since 09). This is we are talking about CR's now.

Secondly, why is Obama allowed to inflict pain and suffering on the American people because Republicans won't budge when Republicans aren't allowed to inflict pain and suffering on the American people because Obama won't budge?

[rimpala.livejournal.com]

Are you suggesting that we just get rid of Congress so the President can pass a budget without interference because I'm starting to like the idea. Our congress is a piece of shit right now because the Republicans in it won't budge and are actively blaming their not-budginess back at the President.

It's becoming very clear that the way to get our economy going again is to vote out all the Republicans. That way we can actually get things done. Because as we all know Republicans don't do anything, they just point fingers at other people.