[identity profile] farmerz-agent.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
I remember as a teenager my mother making me read books by television evangelist about Satanism because she didn't like my comic book collection. To be fair it was the Marvel Inferno cross over series for you comic book geeks. That was rather evil looking
But stack them up against Westboro Baptist Church....
This is just too wonderful not to share.
The Satanic Temple, a burgeoning community of worship devoted to the Dark Lord, has performed a “Pink Mass” over the grave of Westboro Baptist Church founder Fred Phelps Jr.’s mother. The Pink Mass is a Satanic ritual performed after death that turns the deceased's straight spirit into a homo one—it’s not unlike the Mormon practice of baptizing the dead

http://m.vice.com/read/satanists-turned-the-founder-of-the-westboro-baptist-churchs-mom-gay?utm_souce=vicefbus


I, like almost everyone, hates the Wesboro Baptist Church. My wife was a Baptist and I LOVE going to Baptist church service its fun and positive and uplifting. NOTHING like these evil weird hatefilled, flag stomping, clowns.

Would you tithe to a Satanic church just to help them fund their 'pink mass'?

Check out the pictures pretty sexy.

(no subject)

Date: 18/7/13 11:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notmrgarrison.livejournal.com
I'll ignore the Hitler, Stalin, Genghis and Reagan. and go with the "genuine".

As far as "too soon", I think it is that people are more affected by things when they first happen. And even if no one who hears you knows anyone in Japan, making jokes about Japanese guys not having to worry about losing their girlfriend because another will come floating by any minute is in very poor taste, callous even, if it's being made before they even have an estimate of the earthquake/tsunami death toll.



I have absolutely no comprehension why this is a thing. Why does dying make an arsehole not an arsehole?


It doesn't, but the arsehole could be someone's dad. On re-reading, I didn't quite mean "respect for he dead".You can certainly talk trash about Hitler, Ponzi, and Bernie Maddoff after he dies. What I meant was respect for their gravesite. (Though in Hitler's case there would have been no reason to respect that either),
Edited Date: 18/7/13 11:49 (UTC)

(no subject)

Date: 19/7/13 10:13 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
As far as "too soon", I think it is that people are more affected by things when they first happen.

OK, so it's important to understand that empathy is a created emotion for me. It's not something I feel naturally, it's something I create within myself because I understand it has value for social connections. From this "objective" view of empathy, I see people having empathy for things that are on the news, but little empathy for the suffering of the invisible. People call me things like callous for making jokes about tragedies that have just happened, but then they'll gladly walk past a homeless person without acknowledging their existence or vote for politicians who have policies that bring massive amounts of harm to massive amounts of people. It's like everyone else is creating empathy too, but they only create it when they're told they should, rather than creating it for people who really need it.

I appreciate that I'm on the wrong side of this issue, and I'm not trying to tell people to be like me, because I am clearly abnormal and wrong, but I just don't understand what other people are up to...

What I meant was respect for their gravesite.

That makes even less sense to me... But I also don't believe in grave sites, what a thoroughly selfish thing to do in a world struggling for space for the living.

(no subject)

Date: 20/7/13 08:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notmrgarrison.livejournal.com
People call me things like callous for making jokes about tragedies that have just happened, but then they'll gladly walk past a homeless person without acknowledging their existence

The thing there... homeless people are an everyday thing, they aren't news. Just like 3 people dead in an airplane crash (make that two plus one killed by a rescue vehicle) is news, whereas the 100 people who died in auto accidents in the US that day aren't. And it's not just "in the US" either. I read about plane crashes in other countries as well. I think it's partly because of how big the plane is, partly because of how many people are on the same vehicle.

Then there was the anthrax scare, and the DC snipers. The body count was less than 20 (I think less than ten for anthtrax) yet people were terrorized. Far more people in the affected ares died from car accidents during that time period, yet it was opening mail and pumping gas that had people scared.

Oh, and mowing the lawn. I confess I was one of them, having a lawn alongside a somewhat major road about 4 miles from one of the shooting locations. I'm fairly certain I did mow my lawn though.
Edited Date: 20/7/13 08:50 (UTC)

(no subject)

Date: 20/7/13 23:38 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
Which is where I end up, empathy is a function of egoism; we feel empathy for those things within our attention span as opposed to feeling empathy for the things that deserve our empathy. Therefore, empathy isn't something for others, but for ourselves. So when people criticise me for making light of terrible situations, what they're saying isn't "you're not caring for how those people feel" but "you're spoiling the good feeling I get from feeling bad about other peoples' misfortune". Ultimately, the person feeling empathy at a news event and the person making jokes about a news event are both doing it to satisfy some selfish need within themselves, it's just the joker is genuine about their emotions.

I've never been able to articulate that as well as that, thanks for the stimulus!

(no subject)

Date: 21/7/13 08:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notmrgarrison.livejournal.com
Ultimately, the person feeling empathy at a news event and the person making jokes about a news event are both doing it to satisfy some selfish need within themselves, it's just the joker is genuine about their emotions.

I can't quite agree with that. A lot of (needed) money went to the tsunami victims. And just because a person is laughing at people they don't know as opposed to caring about them, that doesn't make them more genuine. It could easily turn out that ultimately people care about others for selfish reasons, but that doesn't make it fake.
Edited Date: 21/7/13 08:55 (UTC)

(no subject)

Date: 24/7/13 23:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notmrgarrison.livejournal.com
And here we are again, a vehicle with a lot of passengers:

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/24/19661944-at-least-35-dead-scores-injured-as-train-derails-in-spain?lite

I can't figure out the end part, but the beginning: The train in Spain derails mainly...

(no subject)

Date: 3/8/13 02:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notmrgarrison.livejournal.com
Bus carrying deaf children overturns in Missouri (http://www.fresnobee.com/2013/08/02/3421210/charter-bus-overturns-in-eastern.html)

If a bus full of deaf kids overturns on the highway, does it make a sound?

(no subject)

Date: 4/8/13 23:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
A bus in a distant land turns over with no serious consequences; in my world, no no it doesn't, not unless there is a punchline.

Unless of course you're going to tell me that it's "too soon" to make jokes about an accident that no one was seriously injured in. In which case I would disagree with you vehemently. The order of operations after an accident is a) check if your OK, b) check if everyone else is OK, c) make a joke about it.

Credits & Style Info

Talk Politics.

A place to discuss politics without egomaniacal mods

DAILY QUOTE:
"Clearly, the penguins have finally gone too far. First they take our hearts, now they’re tanking the global economy one smug waddle at a time. Expect fish sanctions by Friday."

July 2025

M T W T F S S
  123 456
78910 111213
1415 1617 181920
2122 23 24 252627
2829 3031