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http://reason.com/archives/2013/06/12/three-reasons-the-nothing-to-hide-crowd
http://www.cato.org/blog/why-nsa-collecting-phone-records-problem
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110524/00084614407/privacy-is-not-secrecy-debunking-if-youve-got-nothing-to-hide-argument.shtml
http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/the-data-trust-blog/2009/02/debunking-a-myth-if-you-have-n.html

There are a significant number of people who respond to any revelation that government is violating the law (yes, the Constitution is part of the law) with a shrug and "I've got nothing to hide". These people are selfish fools at best. They are not looking at the bigger picture and/or aren't considering other people. Plus, they probably aren't paying attention to the fact that everyone in America is currently a criminal, that everyone violates a law with serious penalties at some point, whether you know it or not. (And the fact that that is the case is another problem, but that's outside the scope of my point here.)

Even Biden and Obama railed against what they are themselves supporting now, before they were in power. That alone should be enough to make you stop and think about what having that kind of power available can do to people.

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Date: 14/6/13 10:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luvdovz.livejournal.com
That same observation (http://talk-politics.livejournal.com/1722274.html?thread=137028258#t137028258) is fully valid for your typical pseudo-rebuttals.

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Date: 15/6/13 09:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luvdovz.livejournal.com
The only thing nonsensical here are your constant trademark "You're wrong, bye" remarks without any follow-up elaboration. That doesn't even approach being a rebuttal of any sort whatsoever. It's just an intellectual laziness which you then proceed to explain with a lack of time. That's the most worthless input one could have in a discussion. And then you go on and complain that "people are not here for the reasonable discussion". Because you are, right? Is this what you mean by "expressing yourself"? Or perhaps it's supposed to be some kind of evidence for your self-proclaimed super-intelligence?

What a joke.
Edited Date: 15/6/13 09:53 (UTC)

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Date: 21/6/13 07:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luvdovz.livejournal.com
Those people who try to improve themselves will get effort from me

How generous and humble of you. Perhaps they should feel gratitude that you're even considering the possibility of deigning some attention to them.

There's nothing "reasonable" about your "U rrong, kthbai" attitude. Start doing what you're preaching, then we can talk. Until then, the only waste of time here will remain the reading of your worthless comments.

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Date: 26/6/13 11:13 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luvdovz.livejournal.com
No no, that's bullshit. You're talking bullshit and it remains as unimpressing as it has ever been.

And yes, I'm aware that you've never cared about what others think. You're not here to discuss things. You're here to dispense your self-serving posturing onto others and help yourself feel good about yourself in the process. It doesn't require too much intelligence for anyone to realize that.

You're no different from Steve_Potocin, only he was at least entertaining.
Edited Date: 26/6/13 11:15 (UTC)

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Date: 27/6/13 05:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luvdovz.livejournal.com
You move your fingers, and all that comes out is yadda-yadda-yadda. Lame.

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