[identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
http://reason.com/archives/2013/06/12/three-reasons-the-nothing-to-hide-crowd
http://www.cato.org/blog/why-nsa-collecting-phone-records-problem
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110524/00084614407/privacy-is-not-secrecy-debunking-if-youve-got-nothing-to-hide-argument.shtml
http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/the-data-trust-blog/2009/02/debunking-a-myth-if-you-have-n.html

There are a significant number of people who respond to any revelation that government is violating the law (yes, the Constitution is part of the law) with a shrug and "I've got nothing to hide". These people are selfish fools at best. They are not looking at the bigger picture and/or aren't considering other people. Plus, they probably aren't paying attention to the fact that everyone in America is currently a criminal, that everyone violates a law with serious penalties at some point, whether you know it or not. (And the fact that that is the case is another problem, but that's outside the scope of my point here.)

Even Biden and Obama railed against what they are themselves supporting now, before they were in power. That alone should be enough to make you stop and think about what having that kind of power available can do to people.

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Date: 13/6/13 15:32 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luzribeiro.livejournal.com
As far as tanks are concerned, I would say no, not at all.

What about RPGs? Rocket launchers? Katyusha? Hand grenade? Snipers? Hey, what about predator drones? Why can't you have one of your own? They've been all around the place lately.

Where is the line? Is there a line at all? The Constitution says "arms". What does that mean? The arms that existed in the 18th century? Or does it extend to the 21st century? Why not ballistic missiles, then?
Edited Date: 13/6/13 15:33 (UTC)

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Date: 13/6/13 15:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notmrgarrison.livejournal.com
Snipers?

People should not be allowed to own snipers.

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Date: 13/6/13 16:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luzribeiro.livejournal.com
Why not? Aren't those "arms" too?

What about machine guns? AK47s? Flamethrowers? Hand grenades? They might need to defend themselves against multiple criminals at a time, you know. WHY DO YOU WANT GOOD PEOPLE TO STAY DEFENSELESS!??!

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Date: 14/6/13 01:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
I wan't a sniper, just think of all the funny pranks you could pull around April Fools

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Date: 14/6/13 03:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
Which kind of a sniper would that be? (funny and sniper just don't work for me, well snipe hunts can be fun, I guess) Perhaps you could rent one.

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Date: 13/6/13 22:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
Why are you against slavery?

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Date: 13/6/13 23:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notmrgarrison.livejournal.com
Hey, some of my best friends are against slavery.

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