[identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
http://reason.com/archives/2013/06/12/three-reasons-the-nothing-to-hide-crowd
http://www.cato.org/blog/why-nsa-collecting-phone-records-problem
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110524/00084614407/privacy-is-not-secrecy-debunking-if-youve-got-nothing-to-hide-argument.shtml
http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/the-data-trust-blog/2009/02/debunking-a-myth-if-you-have-n.html

There are a significant number of people who respond to any revelation that government is violating the law (yes, the Constitution is part of the law) with a shrug and "I've got nothing to hide". These people are selfish fools at best. They are not looking at the bigger picture and/or aren't considering other people. Plus, they probably aren't paying attention to the fact that everyone in America is currently a criminal, that everyone violates a law with serious penalties at some point, whether you know it or not. (And the fact that that is the case is another problem, but that's outside the scope of my point here.)

Even Biden and Obama railed against what they are themselves supporting now, before they were in power. That alone should be enough to make you stop and think about what having that kind of power available can do to people.

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Date: 13/6/13 12:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
You're sure digging a lot to find reasons. Hit a little close to home?

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Date: 13/6/13 13:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notmrgarrison.livejournal.com
You're doing a fantastic job of dismissing the issue with the "it's because Obama is black!" schtick.

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Date: 14/6/13 01:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whoasksfinds.livejournal.com
by digging a lot do you mean using the internet? and no.

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Date: 14/6/13 02:36 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
I notice you use "this is what you really mean so I'm going to argue against this other thing instead" a whole lot.

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Date: 14/6/13 08:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
Only the ones you've ignored with your copout, but hey, that's ok.

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Date: 14/6/13 23:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whoasksfinds.livejournal.com
actually, im pretty sure i addressed your point with facts you proceeded to ignore.

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Date: 16/6/13 01:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whoasksfinds.livejournal.com
your lack of anything resembling an argument is noted.

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Date: 16/6/13 22:23 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whoasksfinds.livejournal.com
try again (http://talk-politics.livejournal.com/1721694.html?thread=136982622#t136982622)

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