[identity profile] chron-job.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
An interesting, if under reported result of last night's elections.

Puerto Rico just voted for statehood.


In a 2 part referendum, they voted for a change of status over the status quo (54% to 46%) and Statehood over 'Sovereign Free Association', or Independence (61%, over 33% and 5% respectively.)

Do you think this is likely to come to pass in the next few years? Critics say the referendum's split nature made it "confusing" to the point that it will be unconvincing to congress, but it makes perfect sense to me.

Currently people in Puerto Rico are considered citizens, but they can't vote for presidents, and they have no real voice in Congress. If they were made a state, being between Connecticut and Oklahoma in population, we'd expect them to have 5 seats in the House of Representatives, and 7 electoral votes. If they become a state, what does THAT do to your demographic calculations?

My own thought is that short term self interest will lead the Republicans in congress to hem, haw, delay, and oppose this, because of the obvious political implications. House Democrats ought to support it... both for short term political gain, and because it is in-line with both party, and, I feel, generally American, principles.

But mostly, this is just one more little pebble on the large scale that says "Republican Party, DIVERSIFY OR DIE!"

*** Edit *** 15:13
EST For those interested in the mechanics, and example of the plebiscite is on page 7 of this PDF. http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/R42765.pdf

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Date: 7/11/12 18:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Hehehehe, so under Obama the USA goes from 50 states to 51? Now he only needs six more states and there will really be 57 of them. ;)

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Date: 7/11/12 18:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-new-machine.livejournal.com
So... do you vote on the second part if you voted "status quo" on the first part? Or is that 61% just 61% of 54%?

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Date: 7/11/12 18:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nairiporter.livejournal.com
So will they have to add one more star to each American flag? God, this is an awful lot of work!
Edited Date: 7/11/12 18:54 (UTC)

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Date: 7/11/12 19:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
Apparently a significant amount of the puerto rican electorate didn't vote on this at all; if you include them, the vote for change to statehood drops to under 50%.

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Date: 7/11/12 21:21 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
In Southern California at least the majority of socially conservative voters are latino, and on the local level at least, so are most of the GOP and more right leaning independant candidates.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the GOP's failure to capitalise on, or even acknowledge, this is one of the reasons they're the "Stupid Party".

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Date: 7/11/12 21:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
If you ask me, the days of the GOP as it currently exists are numbered.

Romney was the "establishment candidate" and even with all the freebies Obama threw him them the establisment couldn't close the deal. The establishment Republicans have lost face so I expect the Tea-party faction to redouble its efforts to tear down the current "old-boys network".

Likewise the Evangelical/Moral guardian wing of the GOP is starting to split along geographic lines with the Mormons and Catholics in the west taking on the white Southern Baptists in the east.

The next generation of of the GOP, (or the party that replaces it) will not look like the current GOP. In some ways this will be in a good thing in others...

Well lets just say that the progressives who classify the current GOP as extreme aint seen anything yet.

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Date: 8/11/12 17:11 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
Back in the day there was talk of making Cuba a state. Racists and anglo-chauvinists were adamantly opposed.

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