[identity profile] rick-day.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
What happens when you take 15 helicopter moms of African American Heritage, one preschool graduation, one 'man' and one cap and gown for every graduate to use for photos, add a disturbing trend of entitlement to said community, and we get a lesson in Great Parenting:




From npr

Essentially the video shows an all-out brawl at Weemes Elementary School in Los Angeles, except the ones shouting and fighting are not the kids, but a group of mothers. What's most striking is the screams from the children watching the fight.

As EAGnews says it's "ridiculous" and "a pathetic display of parenting and a miserable example for young kids.."

EAGnews reports that the fight started over the one cap and gown that all the graduating preschoolers had to share.


I could find 50 other examples of such bad behavior by parents and adults in front of children of all colors, but this seems more the common situation. It has been well documented that the Century old white power conspiracy to provide nothing but a poor education system for minorities, coupled with the decimation of the black male (and female) populus from the so called Prison Industrial Complex has put a tremendous burden upon the females of the community to try and break the cycle.

If anyone has had to deal with such self-proclaimed entitled citizens like I have, it is basically impossible to call someone out on bad behavior without the R-card thrown out. This is shit that our grandfathers and their fathers allowed. Now we have to deal with it.

Question: is it even possible in today's volatile political environment to rationally discuss what exactly is wrong, and how to remedy this destruction of a vital part of our citizen collective.

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Date: 15/6/12 23:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paft.livejournal.com
So your point is...what? That somehow this indicates black people feel entitled and call white people racist for no reason?
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Date: 15/6/12 23:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com
I think the point is just some random geriatric hysteria for its own sake.

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Date: 15/6/12 23:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com
I remain unimpressed with your cultural hectoring.

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Date: 15/6/12 23:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com
By which I mean to say, "So what? Here's a video of some people fighting over stupid shit. Who cares? This is not the end of western civilization. This is not a terrible problem plagueing our society. Get over it."

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Date: 15/6/12 23:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Maybe they need to stop having "Graduations" every time a child is potty-trained or moves to the next grade. Graduation is when you leave high school for good. Or college. Not 6th grade or kindergarden or pre-school.

I'm fine with calling out bad behavior. But don't think it's restricted to any simple demographic.

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Date: 15/6/12 23:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com
What is with this ironically fuddy-duddied "down with this sort of thing" attitude? Shit, we're talking about a society that says, "Fuck it, smoke weed and fuck like bunnies. BUT PRE-SCHOOL GRADUATION?! THAT SHIT IS NOT OK!"

Shit is hilarious I say.

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Date: 16/6/12 01:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
Ever watch that show with the pageant girls and their goof ball parents. The Mayans never had that!!!

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Date: 16/6/12 00:16 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muscadinegirl.livejournal.com
That was terrible planning on somebody's part. They could have sprung to rent, at least, more caps and gowns. Either that or they could have agreed to have none at all. Nobody had them at my Kindergarten graduation.
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Date: 16/6/12 20:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] il-mio-gufo.livejournal.com
agreed......that was really really really really really horrible

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Date: 16/6/12 00:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
I could find 50 other examples of such bad behavior by parents and adults in front of children of all colors, but this seems more the common situation.

Image

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Date: 16/6/12 01:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
Man, a little more work I bet they could have got that to loop perfectly.

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Date: 16/6/12 01:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Perhaps you'd like to join my charitable organization: Drunk Drivers Against Mothers. Because watching that video made me want to start drinking. Again.

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Date: 16/6/12 13:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
I could find 50 other examples of such bad behavior by parents and adults in front of children of all colors

I wish you did.


this seems more the common situation

Yawn, you've perpetuated that by spreading that particular video.


it is basically impossible to call someone out on bad behavior without the R-card thrown out

You're not really calling them out. I would suggest the R came in when instead of looking at these poorly behaved women as poorly behaved women, its look at these poorly behaving "women of African American Heritage". with Heritage in caps, perhaps for irony.

No one is immune.


is it even possible in today's volatile political environment to rationally discuss what exactly is wrong, and how to remedy this destruction of a vital part of our citizen collective.

Its is not possible to comprehensively discuss "what exactly is wrong" without discussing racism. And these are trickly things to discuss.

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Date: 16/6/12 20:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] il-mio-gufo.livejournal.com
i guess i'm just really confused on why the school-authorities and parents agreed to share only one cap and gown.

i mean, if every individual cannot have his/her own pair, then why bother at all?? why not just come as you are? it's just so.....weird....

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Date: 17/6/12 03:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
way to perpetuate.

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Date: 17/6/12 17:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
Hell I've seen a group of white adults do that same thing at a Daytona race. :p

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Date: 17/6/12 20:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
The quality of the video recording is way too poor to get much out of it other than the general sense of a brawl and the distress of the children. The news story assertion that the fight was over a man seems sort of bizarre.

I agree that "white" folks share some responsibility for the conditions that led to this brawl. Injustice has a variety of negative consequences. One of the current problems is that people fail to see long term effects of current systemic injustices. I fear things will only get worse in the future.

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Date: 17/6/12 21:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] il-mio-gufo.livejournal.com
One of the current problems is that people fail to see long term effects of current systemic injustices

speaking of, did you hear about this (One of the current problems is that people fail to see long term effects of current systemic injustices) yet? I guess it just happened....

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Date: 17/6/12 23:34 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
one preschool graduation

Problem starts right there.

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