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talkpoliticsTomorrow Russia celebrates The Victory Day (over nazi Germany). During The World War II Germany attacked USSR on 22 of June 1941 and capitulated at 22:43 on 8 of may 1945. It was already 9 of May in Moscow, so in Russia the Victory Day is celebrated on 9 of May.
I recommend to visit a very informative site that represents the Russian view on war. Rare photos and videos from the fronts, interview with former soldiers of that war, the whole story of Eastern front from heavy first defeats to great victory in Berlin. The Russian site is translated into English. Here is the link:
http://english.pobediteli.ru/flash.html
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I will give my opinion as it is needed for this community.
Russian society is split into many political groups but for all of them Victory Day remains a sacret date. USSR lost 26 million people (not to mention wounded)in that war. Millions got in German concentration camps and died there. But It seems that for many people in western countries "Soviet period" of World war II is almost unknown. So this site is going to inform those who are interested in the history of WWII.
I recommend to visit a very informative site that represents the Russian view on war. Rare photos and videos from the fronts, interview with former soldiers of that war, the whole story of Eastern front from heavy first defeats to great victory in Berlin. The Russian site is translated into English. Here is the link:
http://english.pobediteli.ru/flash.html
P.S.
I will give my opinion as it is needed for this community.
Russian society is split into many political groups but for all of them Victory Day remains a sacret date. USSR lost 26 million people (not to mention wounded)in that war. Millions got in German concentration camps and died there. But It seems that for many people in western countries "Soviet period" of World war II is almost unknown. So this site is going to inform those who are interested in the history of WWII.
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Date: 8/5/12 14:33 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 8/5/12 17:08 (UTC)Now on the subject. Is Putin planning to do some promotion of this day abroad? Because I think it's totally in his style (and capabilities) to herald to the world that this is a great day for Russia and the world, and I'm sure he'll find ways to do it in the most pompous and grandeur way possible ;)
Btw May 9 is also Europe Day, and it was chosen for a reason.
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Date: 8/5/12 17:35 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 8/5/12 17:44 (UTC)I'm rather asking because I'm planning to visit (Piter, though) later this summer and I expect to experience some of all that grandeur - it's his home city after all ;)
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Date: 8/5/12 22:01 (UTC)"Whether you consider him "
The matter is that no one in Russia considers him a nationalist.
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Date: 8/5/12 21:10 (UTC)None of them.
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Date: 9/5/12 12:29 (UTC)You have a chance to make a change in this tendency by telling your friends about this site about WWII. This chace is small, and this change will not be great by still it is an attempt.
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Date: 8/5/12 16:03 (UTC)But it is true every nation is a bit inward-looking and selective when it comes to history.
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Date: 8/5/12 20:08 (UTC)In this "tactical" "game" Germany and USSR lost more soldiers than in Stalingrad.
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Date: 9/5/12 02:09 (UTC)1) The only bunch to enter WWII prepared for mechanized *war* was the Soviets. They, however, had major problems thanks to the Purges. Blitzkrieg never existed as a doctrine, it was the product of desperate gambles and became one only in retrospect.
2) In reality the smartest German in the German war machine was none other than Adolf Hitler. He was no idiot damn fool, he was actually a clever, malevolent douchebag who knew what he was doing a bit too much. The German victories up to 1943 were primarily Hitler, not the generals. They, however, with the full aiding and abetting of the US military wrote a coverup that excused their direct participation in and carrying out of warcrimes and created a new Stab in the Back Legend to make this plausible. Given how much of a complete monster Hitler was, it took a brave man to question this myth.
3) As a result of these modern scholars, what we know now is that Barbarossa was a bad plan well-executed, the Soviet MP-40 was a horrible plan catastrophically executed, but after the first 14 days the Soviets raised about 20X the number of divisions the Germans thought their entire army consisted of, leading to a process that in the Battle of Moscow ended Germany's logistical capability to win the war. Stalingrad ended their ability to launch a strategic offensive, Kursk showed they couldn't even get a tactical offensive. Bagration broke their back. So, ironically, the 1941 victories were illusions, not reflections of reality, which reflected more on the Allies than it did on the Germans, including on the Soviets.
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