[identity profile] paft.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
Here is a picture from today's House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing about the Obama administration's birth control mandate:



The first row are the allowed witnesses.

All those people a couple rows behind them? Well... those witnesses just don't fit in.

That's why most of the Democratic women on the committee walked out of the room.

Just now, Oklahoma GOP representative Jim Lankford implied that these men in black were being "berated" by the committee. In fact, they've mostly been getting strokes just short of full-body massages from most of the remaining committee members. This hearing is such a transparent and over-the-top, right wing extremist attack on the administration (one Representative invoked those dastardly laws against smoking in public buildings as a sign of the slippery slope the administration has set up) that clips from it should be used by Democrats in the upcoming election.

I cannot imagine any reasonable and honest person watching this hearing and not being appalled.


Partially crossposted from Thoughtcrimes

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(no subject)

Date: 19/2/12 17:36 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
Discordianism.
Holy book: principia discordia

And again, even if you refuse to accept this religion, I'd hope you'd accept Mormonism and polygamy as another example.

The fact that I have offered examples of the words of the first amendment being insufficient to cover all religious activity, it is quite obvious that some religious activity isn't protected. Ergo, you must state why this is protected


And got anything for the lack of legal scholars at the hearing?

(no subject)

Date: 19/2/12 20:38 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ofbg.livejournal.com
Ok, you worship Eris, The Goddess of Chaos and Confusion. Explains a lot!

As for polygamy, even the Mormon church gave that up in 1890 because it was never a religious principle and never allowed by the Mormon Bible.

From the Book of Mormon , "(Jacob chapter 2): “Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none."

Anyone who can read and understand the simple words of the 1st amendment is sufficiently scholarly to understand that the Obama contraception mandate violates those words.

(no subject)

Date: 19/2/12 21:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
"Anyone who can read and understand the simple words of the 1st amendment is sufficiently scholarly to understand that the Obama contraception mandate violates those words."

Nonsense.
That's simply denying the need or value of experts in constitutional law.

(no subject)

Date: 19/2/12 21:20 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ofbg.livejournal.com
Cretainly the need in this question!

(no subject)

Date: 19/2/12 21:38 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
I was wondering, how come a constitutional scholar does all these typos? Eeeh? ;)

(no subject)

Date: 19/2/12 22:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ofbg.livejournal.com
Certainly I don't know. Please point out all the others so I can feel admonished.

(no subject)

Date: 19/2/12 22:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
One is more than enough if you ask me! :)

I hope you proof-read your scholarly works, though.

(no subject)

Date: 19/2/12 22:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ofbg.livejournal.com
By the way, I can't find 'Eeeh' in the dictionary. Is it another language?

(no subject)

Date: 19/2/12 22:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
Here you go. (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=eeeh)


(no subject)

Date: 20/2/12 02:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ofbg.livejournal.com
Thank you.

"
eeeh
used to express an overall feeling of blehness and just not really giving a Crap. it is neither happy nor sad. it just is".

"blehness"?? OMFG I MISSED THE KAD RS!!" "Blehness!!!"

Idon't wanna go any farther. It is another language!

(no subject)

Date: 20/2/12 02:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
It's ok. Shakespeare invented words all the time. Fine fellow, that William ;)

(no subject)

Date: 20/2/12 02:38 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ofbg.livejournal.com
I'm old and slow. I just noticed you didn't rebut the truth I stated about the Mormons.

You agree?

(no subject)

Date: 20/2/12 15:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
You haven't responded to my claims of Discordianism and how my first amendment rights are trampled when I am denied the ability to take LSD and pot, which, as a Discordian, I am want to do as part of my religious worship.

Gimme a response to that, and I'll consider responding to your response to the mormon issue.

(no subject)

Date: 20/2/12 17:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ofbg.livejournal.com
I can understand why, when worshiping The Goddess of Chaos and Confusion, which was created by writing a book in the 1960's, by a member of the drug culture, to exalt, glorify and justify the drug culture, is not considered a religion.

If I were to write a book that started a new religion that required a human sacrifice in the form of putting a wife, daughter or volunteer on the dinner table every Thanksgiving as the main course to please the god of turkeys, I believe I could understand why the 1st amendment may not consider it a valid religion.

(no subject)

Date: 20/2/12 17:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
Oh hold on a second.
Human sacrifice and ritual drug consumption are NOT the same.

And what makes religion about chaos and confusion any more or less religious than that about a man who raised the dead or walked on water?

Kooky religions are all kooky. Is Fred Phelps really more protected than I am, just cause his God shares a name with your God?

(no subject)

Date: 20/2/12 22:11 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ofbg.livejournal.com
Fred Phelps is his own god. Just because he calls himself a Baptist doesn't make him any more legit than Jim Jones was.

Are you trying to distract me from the Mormon issue?

(no subject)

Date: 20/2/12 22:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
well since its not what directly affects me, i'm not distracting

im bringing it home

(no subject)

Date: 20/2/12 23:13 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ofbg.livejournal.com
"Human sacrifice and ritual drug consumption are NOT the same."

Neither are illegal drug consumption and contraception, which is the distraction that was injected into this debate and you were trying to defend.

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